Anyone have any work to show from XSI? - Polyloop

Nichod · 6th September 2006, 11:07

Screenshots or the like? Most of the things I have been doing is editing the files that come with XSI and figuring how things work.

JakalDesign · 6th September 2006, 15:59

My site is almost all XSI project. Some animations in there and alot of models.
http://www.jakaldesign.com/

Jolran · 6th September 2006, 21:02

God D"#&NG man! Awsome stuff! Im not putting my stuff in now!

Thomas · 6th September 2006, 21:17

I should post some modeling after the Apple Expo (then, in a couple of weeks ;)

JakalDesign · 6th September 2006, 21:37

Ah, come on Jolran... lets see it! No shyness in this forum.

Jolran · 7th September 2006, 14:34

He he Jakaldesign, It feels kinda akward to post some unfinished garbage comparing to a whole set of proffesional work you have done. (Im sure Thomas too will follow in good style.) Maybe later though. Have a project where Im not sure what style to go for. Toon or displacements or B&W not sure. Post some later, maybe you guys in here can give opinions.

Thomas · 7th September 2006, 15:58

Jolran: don't be shame of your stuff, show it!

JakalDesign · 7th September 2006, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas

Jolran: don't be shame of your stuff, show it!

Yes! Everybody starts from somewhere. I have been doing this for over 6 years now.

Jolran · 8th September 2006, 13:47

He he ok. Bye the way how do you save a screenshot in XSI? I havent had the need to do that before, could probably figure it out myself but..

JakalDesign · 8th September 2006, 16:03

Print Screen button... not just a XSI thing, thats built into Windows.

Jolran · 8th September 2006, 18:58

Thanks. Thats what I was looking for.

Jolran · 8th September 2006, 20:37

Heres a scene Im currently working on. Im not sure if its going to be toonshaded or not. Thinking about going displacements and final gathering, but then the project probably never gonna be finished

The toonshader renders quite fast. Having problems with the shadows though...
If I put on ambience and shadows only, I get more definition if you look at the face. But need overallshadows on the toonshading. To reflect the floors and buildings, any tips?

The lower pic shows the rig. Its "Rigging pro" rig from 3Dquakers,
with some additions.
Really recommend it! Awesome rigging tutorial.
Has custom parameters covering things like footroll, knee roll, and stuff like that. Its skinned to geometry, so if I like I can animate with that rig
as a visual guide for faster playback. Although I dont have any problems
with the whole scene in hidden line mode, at the moment. In mix view mode(costum button) I can view the charactermesh shaded and the "geometryrig" in wireframe, or how ever I assigned it in the pallette view.

Should I go for a more GI look or keep it toonshaded? Dont have any comparison so its a tough question.

medeamajic · 9th September 2006, 10:00

Jolran,

It is good to see a couple of screen shots. I hope you will post the animation for us to see. Looks good so far.

Nichod · 9th September 2006, 22:15

Looks nice!

Jolran · 10th September 2006, 00:52

Thanks! About animation, dont have anywhere to post it. I think that files like that takes up to much space.

How about this version? Its amb.ocl and toonshader render without ink. Then altered in photoshop with lensblur and Z - depth. Can easely do the same in After FX for animation. I like the black and white style a la Sin City. Cause this story is in the past. You might ask why I render out colour if its going to be B & W but apparently its easier to get the grayscale better that way, according to the editors of Sin City(look on softimage-successtories).
I tried to shade the obj. with grey scale colours but it was very difficult

Probably gonna test the amb.ocl tutorial link Nichoid gave us.

Oh and the character mesh is really low poly, forgot to subdivide him, he he.
So dont mind the angles to much..

moonshot · 31st October 2006, 11:20

My first project in XSI. I finished modeling and I'm working on the texturing now. The face texture is finished, however I can't solve the seam problems on the body without having 3D Paint. I'm trying a combination of image textures and procedural textures now.

Duke_of_vampires · 6th November 2006, 13:08

I don't have work in XSI
But my friend kresh does - http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1160820429.jpg
http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1160820483.jpg

http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161299466.jpg
http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161383233.jpg
http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161383601.jpg

http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1142228042.jpg

HayleH · 7th November 2006, 09:19

Woops! the first image I uploaded was too large! Here it is again ... my first attrempt with XSI Foundation...

vkirchner · 6th November 2007, 17:23

Nichod, I recently purchased foundation 6.0 so I am very much in the tutorial stage. But I am curious about the shaders, what shaders are compatible between software packages such as 3DMax, XSI, Carrara, etc? It's is very confusing to me at this point.

Thanks
Vince

ronjurman · 6th November 2007, 18:48

Vince,

I (no, not Nichod, sorry

, I am sure he has a more detailed answer) gather that shaders are basically render-engine specific, so that even a single 3D package that supports multiple renderers actually needs shaders (to be coded anyway) for each renderer supported (and shaders with the same name/intent for different renderers will tend to look at least a touch different, no matter how much a visual match is desired). That's the bad news.

What I believe (haven't gone out there to absolutely verify it though) to be the good news is that XSI's main render engine (SoftImage is starting to open up to multiple renderers) is MentalRay, so I heavily suspect is that MentalRay shaders made for 3DMax and Maya (neither of which I have) probably also work for XSI, which probably opens up a large range of available shaders. Perhaps someone who's looked into this can confirm?

rj

P.S. Carrara, alas, has its own proprietary renderer, so shaders probably not portable.

P.P.S. Textures (i.e. image maps) are probably a more practical cross-renderer way to work. And if you have specific shader 'looks' that you'd like to transfer between programs, some of the basic qualities (base color, specular maybe, etc.) may come across through export/import of compatible scene formats (e.g. .obj).

6th September 2006, 11:07	#1 (permalink)
Nichod Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 611 My Photos: (0) Images: 1	Anyone have any work to show from XSI? Screenshots or the like? Most of the things I have been doing is editing the files that come with XSI and figuring how things work. __________________ Email Me. Visit my blog! Get hundreds of shader presets! Get Art of Shaders! And a preview for Art of Skin is now available. AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-40 (2.2GHz/1MB L2 Cache) 1280 MB DDR 333mHz RAM 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM) 60 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800) I use.

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8th September 2006, 20:37	#12 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	Heres a scene Im currently working on. Im not sure if its going to be toonshaded or not. Thinking about going displacements and final gathering, but then the project probably never gonna be finished The toonshader renders quite fast. Having problems with the shadows though... If I put on ambience and shadows only, I get more definition if you look at the face. But need overallshadows on the toonshading. To reflect the floors and buildings, any tips? The lower pic shows the rig. Its "Rigging pro" rig from 3Dquakers, with some additions. Really recommend it! Awesome rigging tutorial. Has custom parameters covering things like footroll, knee roll, and stuff like that. Its skinned to geometry, so if I like I can animate with that rig as a visual guide for faster playback. Although I dont have any problems with the whole scene in hidden line mode, at the moment. In mix view mode(costum button) I can view the charactermesh shaded and the "geometryrig" in wireframe, or how ever I assigned it in the pallette view. Should I go for a more GI look or keep it toonshaded? Dont have any comparison so its a tough question. Attached Thumbnails

9th September 2006, 22:15	#14 (permalink)
Nichod Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 611 My Photos: (0) Images: 1	Looks nice! __________________ Email Me. Visit my blog! Get hundreds of shader presets! Get Art of Shaders! And a preview for Art of Skin is now available. AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-40 (2.2GHz/1MB L2 Cache) 1280 MB DDR 333mHz RAM 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM) 60 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800) I use.

6th September 2006, 15:59	#2 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 166 My Photos: (0)	My site is almost all XSI project. Some animations in there and alot of models. http://www.jakaldesign.com/

6th September 2006, 21:02	#3 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	God D"#&NG man! Awsome stuff! Im not putting my stuff in now!

6th September 2006, 21:37	#5 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 166 My Photos: (0)	Ah, come on Jolran... lets see it! No shyness in this forum.

7th September 2006, 14:34	#6 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	He he Jakaldesign, It feels kinda akward to post some unfinished garbage comparing to a whole set of proffesional work you have done. (Im sure Thomas too will follow in good style.) Maybe later though. Have a project where Im not sure what style to go for. Toon or displacements or B&W not sure. Post some later, maybe you guys in here can give opinions.

8th September 2006, 13:47	#9 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	He he ok. Bye the way how do you save a screenshot in XSI? I havent had the need to do that before, could probably figure it out myself but..

8th September 2006, 16:03	#10 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 166 My Photos: (0)	Print Screen button... not just a XSI thing, thats built into Windows.

8th September 2006, 18:58	#11 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	Thanks. Thats what I was looking for.

9th September 2006, 10:00	#13 (permalink)
medeamajic Now, I learn animation Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,026 My Photos: (2)	Jolran, It is good to see a couple of screen shots. I hope you will post the animation for us to see. Looks good so far.

10th September 2006, 00:52	#15 (permalink)
Jolran NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 118 My Photos: (0)	Thanks! About animation, dont have anywhere to post it. I think that files like that takes up to much space. How about this version? Its amb.ocl and toonshader render without ink. Then altered in photoshop with lensblur and Z - depth. Can easely do the same in After FX for animation. I like the black and white style a la Sin City. Cause this story is in the past. You might ask why I render out colour if its going to be B & W but apparently its easier to get the grayscale better that way, according to the editors of Sin City(look on softimage-successtories). I tried to shade the obj. with grey scale colours but it was very difficult Probably gonna test the amb.ocl tutorial link Nichoid gave us. Oh and the character mesh is really low poly, forgot to subdivide him, he he. So dont mind the angles to much.. Attached Thumbnails

31st October 2006, 11:20	#16 (permalink)
moonshot Spline Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 40 My Photos: (0)	My first project in XSI. I finished modeling and I'm working on the texturing now. The face texture is finished, however I can't solve the seam problems on the body without having 3D Paint. I'm trying a combination of image textures and procedural textures now. Attached Thumbnails

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6th November 2006, 13:08	#17 (permalink)
Duke_of_vampires CG-Otaku Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russian from Finland Posts: 369 My Photos: (0) Images: 3	I don't have work in XSI But my friend kresh does - http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1160820429.jpg http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1160820483.jpg http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161299466.jpg http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161383233.jpg http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1161383601.jpg http://www.poser.kiev.ua/uploads/post-12-1142228042.jpg __________________ KaWaIi!! ^___^

7th November 2006, 09:19	#18 (permalink)
HayleH Vertex Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Berkshire UK Posts: 1 My Photos: (0)	Woops! the first image I uploaded was too large! Here it is again ... my first attrempt with XSI Foundation... Attached Thumbnails

6th November 2007, 17:23	#19 (permalink)
vkirchner Boolean Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 92 My Photos: (0)	Nichod, I recently purchased foundation 6.0 so I am very much in the tutorial stage. But I am curious about the shaders, what shaders are compatible between software packages such as 3DMax, XSI, Carrara, etc? It's is very confusing to me at this point. Thanks Vince

6th November 2007, 18:48	#20 (permalink)
ronjurman Box modeling Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 201 My Photos: (0)	Vince, I (no, not Nichod, sorry , I am sure he has a more detailed answer) gather that shaders are basically render-engine specific, so that even a single 3D package that supports multiple renderers actually needs shaders (to be coded anyway) for each renderer supported (and shaders with the same name/intent for different renderers will tend to look at least a touch different, no matter how much a visual match is desired). That's the bad news. What I believe (haven't gone out there to absolutely verify it though) to be the good news is that XSI's main render engine (SoftImage is starting to open up to multiple renderers) is MentalRay, so I heavily suspect is that MentalRay shaders made for 3DMax and Maya (neither of which I have) probably also work for XSI, which probably opens up a large range of available shaders. Perhaps someone who's looked into this can confirm? rj P.S. Carrara, alas, has its own proprietary renderer, so shaders probably not portable. P.P.S. Textures (i.e. image maps) are probably a more practical cross-renderer way to work. And if you have specific shader 'looks' that you'd like to transfer between programs, some of the basic qualities (base color, specular maybe, etc.) may come across through export/import of compatible scene formats (e.g. .obj). Last edited by ronjurman : 6th November 2007 at 19:22.