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Wася · 11th August 2007, 06:39

The more features they implement, the more fat the pdf will be. I guess, in C6 it will exceed 881 pages. And after all have done in C6 I believe they can make C4D from Carrara. So I will upgrade. Before Carrara price will be $3500.
And yeah, the tool does not do all the things on it's own, no matter how good is it.

P.S. Sketchy, thanks for notice about Elephants Dream. Cool work.

Pete Exxtreme · 11th August 2007, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Sketchy

That's the whole point of buying "other" apps these days. It's not like you buy one and that's it. You have to spend another couple hundred bucks of learning materials just to figure how the ui works. Not to mention the time it takes to do all these things. Time is precious. In Carrara all you need is the pdf documentation that goes with it.

I can have the most expensive 3d app in the world and end up not producing anything from it. How many people (not big studios) who own any of these apps (Lightwave, XSI, Maya, Max) could even produce a 20 sec animation similar to one of Elephants Dream's? I just don't know of any to this day. Do you?

I agree but buying extra book for application does not mean that this other app is more complicated.
Carrara doc is quite poor in its content : do you see serious examples on "How to build a a shader", or "how unwrap a real objet".?

like the other embedded app doc, it's more a reference manual than a user's manual. That's where some extra books are usefull, as thay are focused on a particular subject.
With Carrara you can produce something fast, probably faster than most of the 3D app, but you when you want to go further, then you have to discoverer everything on your own.

Otherwise i strongely agree when you say than it's not the 3D app that makes the artist

Affuso · 13th August 2007, 01:22

In what format project messiah does export?

Wася · 13th August 2007, 20:37

Wow.
They drop price and move Hair & Clothing to Essentials edition:
http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/whats_new.aspx

Affuso · 22nd September 2007, 13:40

Still too pricey for me.
I have to decide between C6 or fondation. My main concern is animating the characters.

Cyborg Commando · 22nd September 2007, 20:14

If you want characters animation than go with XSI FND, it has
the best animation tools.

HeavyHanded · 23rd September 2007, 10:43

I love XSI. I started with, RayDream 4--eech, then Hash AM 98,99 (too many crashes, modeling was terrible, to Lightwave 7.5

Lightwave was/is awesome. You can do almost anything with it, but 7.5 had no dopesheet, so Char Anim was a challenge for me.

Then, like a fairy godmother, Avid releases XSI 4.0 FND. My wife bought me it as a 5 year wedding anniversary! It was like Manna from Heaven.

XSI; Powerful - Like Darth Sidious
XSI; Versatile - Like Obi-Wan Kenobi.

I skipped version 5 and now use version 6.

I will say this: YOU CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING IN XSI FND. It does have cloth, and the cloth is GOOD and easy to use. (not my opinion, ask the guys on Cgtalk about XSI cloth)

The only reasons I use HEX is because modeling organic things are easier for me in it, and for displacement.

The symmetry tools in HEX2 are easy to use. In XSi, I can do it, it is just frustrating.

Download the 30 day trial, and I'm sure you'll be rushing out to get it.

Affuso · 23rd September 2007, 14:12

Thanks all for the advices

Cyborg Commando · 25th September 2007, 20:04

@HeavyHanded
You can do almost everything in XSI. The particles are not that great
LW can bring much better results with effects.
I don't have LW but I think making hard surface modeling like spaceships
is easier.

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Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 338 My Photos: (3)	The more features they implement, the more fat the pdf will be. I guess, in C6 it will exceed 881 pages. And after all have done in C6 I believe they can make C4D from Carrara. So I will upgrade. Before Carrara price will be $3500. And yeah, the tool does not do all the things on it's own, no matter how good is it. P.S. Sketchy, thanks for notice about Elephants Dream. Cool work. __________________ (Vista 64-bit, Intel Q6700, 8GB, GeForce 8800GTS) Last edited by Wася : 11th August 2007 at 07:59.

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13th August 2007, 01:22	#143 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 169 My Photos: (0)	In what format project messiah does export?

22nd September 2007, 13:40	#145 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 169 My Photos: (0)	Still too pricey for me. I have to decide between C6 or fondation. My main concern is animating the characters.

22nd September 2007, 20:14	#146 (permalink)
Cyborg Commando Spline Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 52 My Photos: (0)	If you want characters animation than go with XSI FND, it has the best animation tools.

23rd September 2007, 10:43	#147 (permalink)
HeavyHanded Cube Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 83 My Photos: (0)	I love XSI. I started with, RayDream 4--eech, then Hash AM 98,99 (too many crashes, modeling was terrible, to Lightwave 7.5 Lightwave was/is awesome. You can do almost anything with it, but 7.5 had no dopesheet, so Char Anim was a challenge for me. Then, like a fairy godmother, Avid releases XSI 4.0 FND. My wife bought me it as a 5 year wedding anniversary! It was like Manna from Heaven. XSI; Powerful - Like Darth Sidious XSI; Versatile - Like Obi-Wan Kenobi. I skipped version 5 and now use version 6. I will say this: YOU CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING IN XSI FND. It does have cloth, and the cloth is GOOD and easy to use. (not my opinion, ask the guys on Cgtalk about XSI cloth) The only reasons I use HEX is because modeling organic things are easier for me in it, and for displacement. The symmetry tools in HEX2 are easy to use. In XSi, I can do it, it is just frustrating. Download the 30 day trial, and I'm sure you'll be rushing out to get it.

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Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 169 My Photos: (0)	Thanks all for the advices

25th September 2007, 20:04	#149 (permalink)
Cyborg Commando Spline Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 52 My Photos: (0)	@HeavyHanded You can do almost everything in XSI. The particles are not that great LW can bring much better results with effects. I don't have LW but I think making hard surface modeling like spaceships is easier.