-ash- - Model - Polyloop

-ash- · 26th May 2008, 20:14

I've been thinking about starting a thread in the sandbox for a while now. As I'm currently learning modo I though this would be a good time to start

In this thread I'll post tutorial progress and comments, experiments, and anything else that I can think of as I go along.

-ash- · 26th May 2008, 20:23

I've done the basic tuts and I'm working my way through the wmd tutorial that comes with modo. I've found the loop slice tool to be a revelation. The ease with which you can slice up geometry is great.

Here's a pic of where I am up to so far:

I'm learning a lot about hard edge modeling with this tutorial.

-ash- · 26th May 2008, 20:55

Wanted to mention this bit about the ammo belts. I did this the way the tut said but it didn't work out very well. Parts were too close together and I couldn't get the curve on the second one to match the first.

So I started again this time building each one a stage at a time.

This worked a lot better.

Each one of these is an instance - the tutorial sets everything back at the origin before instancing, then re-positioning back at the proper place. I found (using modo 302) that I didn't need to do this, instancing worked fine without moving the original item to the origin.

As I was doing the last one I thought, can I instance an instance? Well it seems you can. I instanced that last section from the last instance of the previous.

-ash- · 26th May 2008, 21:01

...and finally for today, I've just started on the wheels and tracks. By now I'm getting quite comfortable with the tools and this bit felt like a doddle. Shift clicking to run the tool again is getting to be second nature now. I also very much like the way things like the loop slice remembers the last settings.

CGRookie · 28th May 2008, 12:21

Wow! Unbelievable. Been visiting this forum for years and this is the first time I've seen some modeling out of you. Can't even remember you doing something in Hexagon which I think is far easier than Modo.

Nice start, man.

-ash- · 5th June 2008, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGRookie

Wow! Unbelievable. Been visiting this forum for years and this is the first time I've seen some modeling out of you. Can't even remember you doing something in Hexagon which I think is far easier than Modo.

Nice start, man.

Thanks for the kind words. But I must give credit to Andy Brown's tutorial. I'm just following along, though I'm starting to add some of my own details now.

I have done a wee bit of modeling - my best thing so far was the Sea Dragons in my picture: Look Ma, Dinner!
http://forums.polyloop.net/3d-work-p...a-hexagon.html

But that was 2 years ago

This year I really want to get better at the modeling.

Here's an update - more wheels and added the tracks. Did the tracks 2 time before I got the hang of duplicate on a curve

crazy wabbit · 5th June 2008, 21:48

Amazing work, amazing software too. How did you find using this amazing software. Do you miss hex, would you ever go back, I don't think soooo

-ash- · 5th June 2008, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

Amazing work, amazing software too. How did you find using this amazing software. Do you miss hex, would you ever go back, I don't think soooo

I really like modo. It just seems to fit with me, if you know what I mean - go back to Hex? Probably not

I do miss what Hex could have been though. DAZ just don't seem to be doing much with it. It's a shame

crazy wabbit · 6th June 2008, 00:35

MODO here i come

jbshorty · 6th June 2008, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

MODO here i come

I'll believe it when i see it!

crazy wabbit · 6th June 2008, 20:05

your so right, I want win lottery so all i worry is to make 3d
no more learning adobe softwares and running business

Duke_of_vampires · 7th June 2008, 17:13

nice
but metal DOESN'T have all those smooth shapes =)

-ash- · 7th June 2008, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke_of_vampires

nice
but metal DOESN'T have all those smooth shapes =)

Sorry Duke. I'm not sure what you mean. Could you expand on your comment please?

crazy wabbit · 8th June 2008, 13:40

I think he means these

-ash- · 8th June 2008, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

I think he means these

Cheers - I see the curves. I suppose it would depend on how the item was made. Googling tank drive sprockets for pictures they all seem to be flat on the edge - Andy's design has the teeth coming out of the body of the wheel which makes it more curved. Perhaps the difference between machined parts and cast parts?

crazy wabbit · 8th June 2008, 18:46

I don't think looking at your talk from a distance really makes a difference on it being curve like or straight.

-ash- · 8th June 2008, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

I don't think looking at your talk from a distance really makes a difference on it being curve like or straight.

No, probably not

jbshorty · 8th June 2008, 20:54

Ask a fallen enemy if he prefers smooth treads or sharp treads as you're running him over. I think he will answer the same either way...

crazy wabbit · 8th June 2008, 21:29

jb that is so cute wow
can he run over me too

-ash- · 16th June 2008, 23:00

Got some more time to work with this tutorial at the weekend. Got to the point where Andy says - "Now I want you to make some gears and a shaft for this and...". Whoa! I'm on my own now

.

Anyway spent most of the weekend working on the gun support and adding some details on the body.

Had a real problem mirroring the rivets. Did the left side but couldn't get the right hand side to mirror over without doing a weird scale. Eventually gave up and decided just to mirror the base items and instance again. Selected the first one and well, blow me, if it didn't go and perfectly mirror the lot, including all the instances

.

So the secret was not to try and mirror them all at once. Perhaps it is something to do with having some of them instanced at an angle.

Here's another pic of the whole thing:

26th May 2008, 20:14	#1 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 749	-ash- - Model I've been thinking about starting a thread in the sandbox for a while now. As I'm currently learning modo I though this would be a good time to start In this thread I'll post tutorial progress and comments, experiments, and anything else that I can think of as I go along. __________________ Regards Tony (aka HamSoles)

26th May 2008, 20:23	#2 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 749	First up - wmd I've done the basic tuts and I'm working my way through the wmd tutorial that comes with modo. I've found the loop slice tool to be a revelation. The ease with which you can slice up geometry is great. Here's a pic of where I am up to so far: I'm learning a lot about hard edge modeling with this tutorial. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Regards Tony (aka HamSoles)

26th May 2008, 20:55	#3 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 749	More! Wanted to mention this bit about the ammo belts. I did this the way the tut said but it didn't work out very well. Parts were too close together and I couldn't get the curve on the second one to match the first. So I started again this time building each one a stage at a time. This worked a lot better. Each one of these is an instance - the tutorial sets everything back at the origin before instancing, then re-positioning back at the proper place. I found (using modo 302) that I didn't need to do this, instancing worked fine without moving the original item to the origin. As I was doing the last one I thought, can I instance an instance? Well it seems you can. I instanced that last section from the last instance of the previous. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Regards Tony (aka HamSoles)

26th May 2008, 21:01	#4 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 749	...and finally for today, I've just started on the wheels and tracks. By now I'm getting quite comfortable with the tools and this bit felt like a doddle. Shift clicking to run the tool again is getting to be second nature now. I also very much like the way things like the loop slice remembers the last settings. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Regards Tony (aka HamSoles)

7th June 2008, 17:13	#12 (permalink)
Duke_of_vampires CG-Otaku Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russian from Finland Posts: 389	nice but metal DOESN'T have all those smooth shapes =) __________________ KaWaIi!! ^___^

28th May 2008, 12:21	#5 (permalink)
CGRookie Vertex Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	Wow! Unbelievable. Been visiting this forum for years and this is the first time I've seen some modeling out of you. Can't even remember you doing something in Hexagon which I think is far easier than Modo. Nice start, man.

5th June 2008, 21:48	#7 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	Amazing work, amazing software too. How did you find using this amazing software. Do you miss hex, would you ever go back, I don't think soooo

6th June 2008, 00:35	#9 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	MODO here i come

6th June 2008, 20:05	#11 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	your so right, I want win lottery so all i worry is to make 3d no more learning adobe softwares and running business

8th June 2008, 13:40	#14 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	I think he means these Attached Thumbnails

8th June 2008, 18:46	#16 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	I don't think looking at your talk from a distance really makes a difference on it being curve like or straight.

8th June 2008, 20:54	#18 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,335	Ask a fallen enemy if he prefers smooth treads or sharp treads as you're running him over. I think he will answer the same either way...

8th June 2008, 21:29	#19 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,376	jb that is so cute wow can he run over me too

16th June 2008, 23:00	#20 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 749	Got some more time to work with this tutorial at the weekend. Got to the point where Andy says - "Now I want you to make some gears and a shaft for this and...". Whoa! I'm on my own now . Anyway spent most of the weekend working on the gun support and adding some details on the body. Had a real problem mirroring the rivets. Did the left side but couldn't get the right hand side to mirror over without doing a weird scale. Eventually gave up and decided just to mirror the base items and instance again. Selected the first one and well, blow me, if it didn't go and perfectly mirror the lot, including all the instances . So the secret was not to try and mirror them all at once. Perhaps it is something to do with having some of them instanced at an angle. Here's another pic of the whole thing: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Regards Tony (aka HamSoles)

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