world space positioning - Polyloop

jones2000u · 24th October 2006, 19:21

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to position an object numerically - or read back it's position in world space?

I've found that if I cut and paste an object into a new doc to work on it, when I cut it back into the original doc, it doesn't occupy the same space as before.

Am I missing something really basic?

Also size measuring - I've found the transparent ruler, but is there a numeric readout anywhere? (as in Carrara's set size function)?

transient · 26th October 2006, 08:43

You can change an object's position in the object window in the aggregate tool. This also has the object's dimensions as well.

jones2000u · 26th October 2006, 11:59

Thanks Transient

spent ages looking for that in all the wrong places!

transient · 26th October 2006, 12:11

No worries. It's good to see someone else using shade.

jones2000u · 26th October 2006, 12:29

enjoying it a lot. I work in Illustrator mainly, so the bezier curve drawing suits me down to the ground. The camera control takes a bit of getting used to, but I can live with that... Also, the export to degrees of fine smoothing is really quite impressive. A good add-on to my collection of toys!

wip is a first attempt for a composite scene - this item is about 50% complete. You can see where the beziers have gone a bit wrong, but I'm learning! (be nice - first project in Shade!)

juanmanuel · 26th October 2006, 19:26

To get rid of the strange smoothness on the sleeves on the kimono, select the vertical lines and smooth them. Or just the offending points, but of the vertical lines.

jones2000u · 26th October 2006, 19:56

Just had a look at your blog - very nice work. I like the comment about going to a night view when the client changed his mind. I work on wine labels. It's the same thing. "Yes very nice, but can you do it in gold, green, blue and more gold...and a different shape we didn't tell you about...by tonight?" (!)

transient · 27th October 2006, 04:43

I think the komono looks great so far.

The smoothing idea is good advice.

juanmanuel · 27th October 2006, 04:53

Clients expectations can be a bit too high. They seem to have seen to many

movies

I am glad you like my work. Back to topic, the kimono is coming along great.

jones2000u · 27th October 2006, 12:42

Thanks for the encouragement and advice, guys!

Now this might be interesting: the reason I started to draw a kimono was not to play about in poser...

I share my studio with a fashion designer. He makes a garment in white, (a long dress, for example), pleats it, assembles it and then prints OVER the finished article. So where you have creases for the pleates, the upper surface gets printed with the design and inside the pleate remains white (or is pre-dyed some other colour). Interesting technique.

I was messing about with wine bottles in Carrara and he asked me if it was possible to assign areas and produce a template so he could print a complete design in one go with the pleats opened out, so when the dress is worn, the design looks abstract (because the pleats are closed) but when the person moves, the pleates open and you see more of the real pattern.

Of course I know about producing a UV map for a 3d construction, but how would I turn that into an artwork template for a fabric printer???
A kimono is a fairly simple set of tubes, but a dress with maybe 100 accurate and folded-back pleates around the waist is a bit of geometry in itself!

Any ideas gratefully received!

24th October 2006, 19:21	#1 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	world space positioning Can anyone tell me if there is a way to position an object numerically - or read back it's position in world space? I've found that if I cut and paste an object into a new doc to work on it, when I cut it back into the original doc, it doesn't occupy the same space as before. Am I missing something really basic? Also size measuring - I've found the transparent ruler, but is there a numeric readout anywhere? (as in Carrara's set size function)?

26th October 2006, 11:59	#3 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	thank you Thanks Transient spent ages looking for that in all the wrong places!

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jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	enjoying it a lot. I work in Illustrator mainly, so the bezier curve drawing suits me down to the ground. The camera control takes a bit of getting used to, but I can live with that... Also, the export to degrees of fine smoothing is really quite impressive. A good add-on to my collection of toys! wip is a first attempt for a composite scene - this item is about 50% complete. You can see where the beziers have gone a bit wrong, but I'm learning! (be nice - first project in Shade!) Attached Thumbnails

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juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241	To get rid of the strange smoothness on the sleeves on the kimono, select the vertical lines and smooth them. Or just the offending points, but of the vertical lines. __________________ passionately alive This is my blog This is my portfolio

27th October 2006, 04:53	#9 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241	Clients expectations can be a bit too high. They seem to have seen to many movies I am glad you like my work. Back to topic, the kimono is coming along great. __________________ passionately alive This is my blog This is my portfolio

26th October 2006, 08:43	#2 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 171	You can change an object's position in the object window in the aggregate tool. This also has the object's dimensions as well.

26th October 2006, 12:11	#4 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 171	No worries. It's good to see someone else using shade.

26th October 2006, 19:56	#7 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	Just had a look at your blog - very nice work. I like the comment about going to a night view when the client changed his mind. I work on wine labels. It's the same thing. "Yes very nice, but can you do it in gold, green, blue and more gold...and a different shape we didn't tell you about...by tonight?" (!)

27th October 2006, 04:43	#8 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 171	I think the komono looks great so far. The smoothing idea is good advice.

27th October 2006, 12:42	#10 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	Thanks for the encouragement and advice, guys! Now this might be interesting: the reason I started to draw a kimono was not to play about in poser... I share my studio with a fashion designer. He makes a garment in white, (a long dress, for example), pleats it, assembles it and then prints OVER the finished article. So where you have creases for the pleates, the upper surface gets printed with the design and inside the pleate remains white (or is pre-dyed some other colour). Interesting technique. I was messing about with wine bottles in Carrara and he asked me if it was possible to assign areas and produce a template so he could print a complete design in one go with the pleats opened out, so when the dress is worn, the design looks abstract (because the pleats are closed) but when the person moves, the pleates open and you see more of the real pattern. Of course I know about producing a UV map for a 3d construction, but how would I turn that into an artwork template for a fabric printer??? A kimono is a fairly simple set of tubes, but a dress with maybe 100 accurate and folded-back pleates around the waist is a bit of geometry in itself! Any ideas gratefully received!

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