DAY 2: DAZ Acquisition - Page 2 - Polyloop

-ash- · 26th April 2006, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by EoviaBob

1- An option is that there may be a long-term contract with that dev team. I will stress that this is an option and there are no committments from either side at this point. We are all driving on Hex 2 and the subsequent 2.1.

Now this I like the sound of

. Those devs have done wonders for Hex in the past year and I hope they get the contract.

Now a small question: are there plans for Carrara and Hexagon support forums on the DAZ site as there is for Bryce etc.?

DomTo1 · 26th April 2006, 21:27

Some things that haven't been covered before...

1. Will anything be different with regards to Carrara Plug-ins and/or have an affect on those that develop them?
2. Will there now be a printed manual for Hex2 - or for that matter, Carrara (future versions)?
3. For those who have Amapi - Where have the updates gone? (eovia.fr isn't an active site yet)

-ash- · 26th April 2006, 21:33

Not sure if you can answer this one, but, I would be interested to know how Eovia was set up.

Were Eovia US and Eovia Europe different companies?

It looks to me as though the US company owned C5 and Hex, and Europe owned Amapi. The Europe devs were then contracted to develop Hexagon.

If this was the case then the split acquisition makes a little more sense, as does a continuing contract for the Europe team for Hex development.

Is this how things were?

-ash- · 26th April 2006, 21:44

Here's another one.

What, if any, commitment has DAZ made to working with the current plugin providers such as DCG and Inagoni?

These guys have helped push the envelope and I would hate to see them left out in the cold. Can't lose my Anything Goos!

EoviaBob · 26th April 2006, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomTo1

Some things that haven't been covered before...

1. Will anything be different with regards to Carrara Plug-ins and/or have an affect on those that develop them?
2. Will there now be a printed manual for Hex2 - or for that matter, Carrara (future versions)?
3. For those who have Amapi - Where have the updates gone? (eovia.fr isn't an active site yet)

1- No
2- No. We are moving away from printed manuals. If we provide these moving forward, these will always be an optional purchase.
3- For this answer, please send an email to info@eovia.fr

EoviaBob · 26th April 2006, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by -ash-

Here's another one.

What, if any, commitment has DAZ made to working with the current plugin providers such as DCG and Inagoni?

These guys have helped push the envelope and I would hate to see them left out in the cold. Can't lose my Anything Goos!

Our SDK for Carrara 5 is still available, and we have no interest in chasing away our plug-in partners. We hope to grow that group.

EoviaBob · 26th April 2006, 23:43

[quote=-ash-Were Eovia US and Eovia Europe different companies? [/QUOTE]

Essentially yes. Eovia Corp. was a US business. Eovia Europe S.A. is a French business.

EMC · 26th April 2006, 23:53

After the Hexagon 2 chat, there was a session of Carrara 5/6 talk, during which many (including myself) expressed an interest in detailed character animation (bones tied to expressions deforming things, &c, &c...). Will Carrara continue to develope along a line of being intergrated with other tools (i.e. DAZ|Studio) in a loose way like Transposer, &c, while working towards a more powerful (and most likely more complex/detailed) character animation setup? I guess the question is Carrara's intergration going to be more along the line of create content in Carrara/Hexagon for "simpler" apps like DAZ|Studio/Bryce? Sorry if this sort of question was already asked...

Thanks

EoviaBob · 26th April 2006, 23:57

We will continue to push Carrara upward. If this type of integration supports that goal, then it will be considered.

-ash- · 27th April 2006, 00:16

Thanks for your answers, Bob.

DanRoberts · 27th April 2006, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcovth

Make a clear announcement on the eovia website about the release dates, prices, special offers for Hex 2 !

Hey Marc ... good choice on using that as an avatar. I get to be laugh/happy all over again like the 1st time I saw it.

marcovth · 27th April 2006, 01:17

It's for sell at Daz

DanRoberts · 27th April 2006, 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcovth

It's for sell at Daz

Lol ... man u make me laugh.

marcovth · 27th April 2006, 02:53

This one is for you.

It expresses how the Daz company will be carried by the Hex community.

DanRoberts · 27th April 2006, 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcovth

This one is for you.

Check it out my man !! U lead I follow

. hehe.

marcovth · 27th April 2006, 03:56

Perfect !

twovales · 27th April 2006, 06:37

For something totally different check this out!

I am a C5pro user and Hex1. I bought the Hex2 update because the previews sure look good. I also have various other softs.

I've read all these posts over the last few daze, and just wanted to ask if anyone has bothered to look at the galleries on the DAZ website?

It's been said that the DAZ does not enhance creativity, and it's just "push button" offerings to sell stuff to lusty boys playing with big tit dolls.

However, I took some time to visit the DAZ site and yea, sure there's pushy commercialism, but did anyone check out the galleries?

If you do I'm sure you will see that there are some very fine works (or you're blind). I'm not talking about the endless same-faced-big-boobed-Victorias you'll see on Renderosity.

There are MANY fine works of intelligent, creative expression shown there.

What this means is it does not matter where the pigments come from, but how the artist uses them. It's like a snobby artist criticizes another artists work because he did not grind his own pigments to make the paint.

As a viewer, I don't care - show me the results.

I say: check out the DAZ galleries. If you don't see some real creativity there, you might as well go back to accounting.....

Frank

twovales · 27th April 2006, 06:54

I don caerr. I want to beetch abowt someting and this it's good on, no?
I am peesed bekuze thingz haapn to chang my werld. My mony is so pezioicus to me.

I made it happenzs on my own. I don'ts wants simpel peeple to has my seqrets, theryfor I beetch, and make neggativ statmentz regarding my new boss.

I seek to be an artist, but If not I can tear down those who are.

He, he, and maybee I can sell myself by thelling all the great software I claim to use....

Ha ha

twovales · 27th April 2006, 06:55

total sarcasm. I hope the blockheads get it.

"All we are saying, is give DAZ a chance"

Patrick210 · 27th April 2006, 07:09

"I am peesed bekuze thingz haapn to chang my werld. My mony is so pezioicus to me"

ROFLMAO

26th April 2006, 21:33	#23 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 725 Images: 9	Not sure if you can answer this one, but, I would be interested to know how Eovia was set up. Were Eovia US and Eovia Europe different companies? It looks to me as though the US company owned C5 and Hex, and Europe owned Amapi. The Europe devs were then contracted to develop Hexagon. If this was the case then the split acquisition makes a little more sense, as does a continuing contract for the Europe team for Hex development. Is this how things were? __________________ Regards Tony

26th April 2006, 21:44	#24 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 725 Images: 9	Here's another one. What, if any, commitment has DAZ made to working with the current plugin providers such as DCG and Inagoni? These guys have helped push the envelope and I would hate to see them left out in the cold. Can't lose my Anything Goos! __________________ Regards Tony

27th April 2006, 00:16	#30 (permalink)
-ash- I'm Batman (in 3D) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 725 Images: 9	Thanks for your answers, Bob. __________________ Regards Tony

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26th April 2006, 21:27	#22 (permalink)
DomTo1 Spline Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 34	Some things that haven't been covered before... 1. Will anything be different with regards to Carrara Plug-ins and/or have an affect on those that develop them? 2. Will there now be a printed manual for Hex2 - or for that matter, Carrara (future versions)? 3. For those who have Amapi - Where have the updates gone? (eovia.fr isn't an active site yet)

26th April 2006, 23:43	#27 (permalink)
EoviaBob Cube Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 64	[quote=-ash-Were Eovia US and Eovia Europe different companies? [/QUOTE] Essentially yes. Eovia Corp. was a US business. Eovia Europe S.A. is a French business.

26th April 2006, 23:53	#28 (permalink)
EMC Vertex Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 17	After the Hexagon 2 chat, there was a session of Carrara 5/6 talk, during which many (including myself) expressed an interest in detailed character animation (bones tied to expressions deforming things, &c, &c...). Will Carrara continue to develope along a line of being intergrated with other tools (i.e. DAZ\|Studio) in a loose way like Transposer, &c, while working towards a more powerful (and most likely more complex/detailed) character animation setup? I guess the question is Carrara's intergration going to be more along the line of create content in Carrara/Hexagon for "simpler" apps like DAZ\|Studio/Bryce? Sorry if this sort of question was already asked... Thanks

26th April 2006, 23:57	#29 (permalink)
EoviaBob Cube Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 64	We will continue to push Carrara upward. If this type of integration supports that goal, then it will be considered.

27th April 2006, 01:17	#32 (permalink)
marcovth NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 139	It's for sell at Daz

27th April 2006, 02:53	#34 (permalink)
marcovth NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 139	This one is for you. It expresses how the Daz company will be carried by the Hex community.

27th April 2006, 03:56	#36 (permalink)
marcovth NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 139	Perfect !

27th April 2006, 06:37	#37 (permalink)
twovales Boulet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 32	For something totally different check this out! I am a C5pro user and Hex1. I bought the Hex2 update because the previews sure look good. I also have various other softs. I've read all these posts over the last few daze, and just wanted to ask if anyone has bothered to look at the galleries on the DAZ website? It's been said that the DAZ does not enhance creativity, and it's just "push button" offerings to sell stuff to lusty boys playing with big tit dolls. However, I took some time to visit the DAZ site and yea, sure there's pushy commercialism, but did anyone check out the galleries? If you do I'm sure you will see that there are some very fine works (or you're blind). I'm not talking about the endless same-faced-big-boobed-Victorias you'll see on Renderosity. There are MANY fine works of intelligent, creative expression shown there. What this means is it does not matter where the pigments come from, but how the artist uses them. It's like a snobby artist criticizes another artists work because he did not grind his own pigments to make the paint. As a viewer, I don't care - show me the results. I say: check out the DAZ galleries. If you don't see some real creativity there, you might as well go back to accounting..... Frank

27th April 2006, 06:54	#38 (permalink)
twovales Boulet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 32	I don caerr. I want to beetch abowt someting and this it's good on, no? I am peesed bekuze thingz haapn to chang my werld. My mony is so pezioicus to me. I made it happenzs on my own. I don'ts wants simpel peeple to has my seqrets, theryfor I beetch, and make neggativ statmentz regarding my new boss. I seek to be an artist, but If not I can tear down those who are. He, he, and maybee I can sell myself by thelling all the great software I claim to use.... Ha ha

27th April 2006, 06:55	#39 (permalink)
twovales Boulet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 32	total sarcasm. I hope the blockheads get it. "All we are saying, is give DAZ a chance"

27th April 2006, 07:09	#40 (permalink)
Patrick210 Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 548 Images: 16	"I am peesed bekuze thingz haapn to chang my werld. My mony is so pezioicus to me" ROFLMAO