Questions and answers on the DAZ acquisition - Page 3 - Polyloop

LoneGunman · 25th April 2006, 18:44

DAZ is "well known" for having VERY POORLY chosen and not-very-dedicated and also very small Beta-Testing team.

We are all aware of LEGENDARY stability of Bryce 5 (by Corel) and Carrara 5 came very close to that.

Many Bryce 5.5 users are still having lot of problems and bugs, and it looks like DAZ stopped addresing these with "promise" of Bryce 6.

My question is: did Eovia part of the team kept it's current line of the testers and rights to choose them, or DAZ is going to take over ?

I ask this becouse it is the most crucial element in releasing stable releases, which were expected and delivered per usual by the great Eovia team. Thanks for your time.

Reactor · 25th April 2006, 18:45

Bob, I had plans to try the Hex 2 demo before April 30th, and then purchase (if I liked it) at the $200 price. Will this still be possible for me?

I do not have plans to purchase Hex 2 if the price is over $200, which is why I ask.

Corndog · 25th April 2006, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by EoviaBob

1) We are planning to continue the development of both Carrara and Hexagon. We held a product planning meeting just yesterday at the DAZ corporate offices in the Salt Lake valley with the complete Carrara team in attendance. We are enthused about the future and confident we will be able to continue to make the kinds of strides we have over the past 2 years.

2) Charles remains in direct control of Carrara development. He will also likely lead the Hexagon development in regard to making sure we are pulling in the same direction. DAZ acquired us for our ability to make and market great 3D apps, and that will not change.

3) ABSOLUTELY!!!!

Eovia has been great to me and have not disappointed so Bob I will take your word on this above quote.

EoviaBob · 25th April 2006, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reactor

Bob, I had plans to try the Hex 2 demo before April 30th, and then purchase (if I liked it) at the $200 price. Will this still be possible for me?

I do not have plans to purchase Hex 2 if the price is over $200, which is why I ask.

Unfortunately, we cannot release the trial version until the release version is finished. When the dev team ran into issues a couple of weeks ago, the release date had to slip. This, in turn, caused the trial version date to slip.

That said, we will have a solution for you.

-bob

achrystie · 25th April 2006, 19:02

Reactor, I asked this same question about an hour ago, no response yet.

Apparently if I was one of the lambs to the slaughter and just wanted to "get the software ASAP no matter the price" (as some have pretty much said), and all that mattered to me were release dates to soothe my instant gratification, I'd be responded to immediately.
Maybe if I had preordered on day one without ever even trying the software, I'd get a response to any emotional; "Will Daz love me like Eovia did question I wanted."
However, ask a direct question, regarding actually evaluating my potential $200+ purchase and I can't even get a "We're not sure yet but we will let you know ASAP."

If you check your sales records, I'm a Bryce 5.5 owner, if that helps.

EoviaBob · 25th April 2006, 19:04

I need to take a short break to address some Hexagon 2 deliverables. I'll be back shortly.

-bob

Reactor · 25th April 2006, 19:05

Thanks Bob! I'll wait for the Hex 2 trial and trust there will be a cheaper price point for those who get in quickly after it's out.

Nichod · 25th April 2006, 19:06

achrystie-

It has been stated from the get go that the special pricing will be retained on hexagon for awhile. And a demo will be available prior to the end of the special pricing.

achrystie · 25th April 2006, 19:10

A few minutes late on my post.

Thanks for the response Bob, as vague as it may be.

Sorry for the sarcasm but this whole thing has been like watching a train wreck.

All I can say is what I said before, I'm not buying the car without driving it, and I'm not buying the car for a higher price because you didn't "let" me drive it first.

achrystie · 25th April 2006, 19:12

I must have missed that Nichod, can you point me to the post/announcement that says, now that DAZ owns the product, that the pricing will stay low and a demo will be available before that pricing structure goes away?

Maybe it's my old age, or the rate at which this forum is updating.

philebus · 25th April 2006, 19:19

That the Carrara team has been retained is very re-assuring but I would like to know more about the continued support for Poser import. I could never quite get into the DAZ Studio interface but I do like Poser's, along with Poser's dynamic cloth.

I'm also keen to know about the future of Hexagon. Will it remain a stand alone program or will it be integrated into Carrara?

Reactor · 25th April 2006, 19:20

Just one quick thing- thanks to Bob and the mods for dropping by to answer all of the questions. It's much appreciated.

marcovth · 25th April 2006, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by philebus

I'm also keen to know about the future of Hexagon. Will it remain a stand alone program or will it be integrated into Carrara?

Keep Hexagon a stand alone program !

I am (will) using it to model for Vue 5 (paid a lot of money for it, therefore will not buy Carrara).

I am sure some other users too use it to create models for other 3d renderers like 3dsMax or Maya.

Aunty Betty · 25th April 2006, 20:27

I suppose for most of us only time will tell whether our hopes for the future of Hexegon and Carrara will be answered.

The stagnation of Bryce is a legitimate cause for concern for the users of both Carrara and Hexegon.

I also fully acknowledge the exciting potential of such a fusion.

However you have been very straight and clear with the user base with your replies and I trust this clarity of communication will continue as a new era dawns.

I myself have only been using Carrara and Hexegon for a short while and have quickly come to hold the team at Eovia France in utmost respect and affection and hope their brilliance will continue to be utilised in future development?

Trothgard · 25th April 2006, 20:27

I posted this over in the Hex site and this forum moves too fast for me to keep refreshing it every quick moment I can steal away from my work. But hopefully I can get a quickie answer: I was planning on awaiting the demo for Hex2 seeing as I just got Hex at the end of February (just my luck... upgrade announced a week after I got it too). I was tickled pink with the $99 upgrade price, but now on the eovia site there is neither hide nor hair of this deal. Will this deal still be offered through Daz or those of us who are trying to justify a $99 expenditure SOL until this acquisition sorts itself out?

Piem · 25th April 2006, 20:32

hello !!

I have a question for Bob..and the Daz crew (sorry for my english) lets go :

If 100 users asked a thing like :"We would want a function to make 3d starting from a photograph" And,if in the same time,30 users would ask you for a advanced modelisation function implementation.important for pros users ...What would you make?
Thanks

koncz · 25th April 2006, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piem

hello !!

I have a question for Bob..and the Daz crew (sorry for my english) lets go :

If 100 users asked a thing like :"We would want a function to make 3d starting from a photograph" And,if in the same time,30 users would ask you for a advanced modelisation function implementation.important for pros users ...What would you make?
Thanks

Really a good question Piem

schuubars · 25th April 2006, 20:44

First sorry for my bad english, nice little forum here.

Another question.

Could it now happen that i will get every week a promotion mail in my email box for this premade content?(from daz) (i would call it spam...IMO)

I really hope not.

EoviaBob · 25th April 2006, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piem

hello !!

I have a question for Bob..and the Daz crew (sorry for my english) lets go :

If 100 users asked a thing like :"We would want a function to make 3d starting from a photograph" And,if in the same time,30 users would ask you for a advanced modelisation function implementation.important for pros users ...What would you make?
Thanks

We'd make the feature that fits the product line we currently have.

We do not have a solution for making 3D starting from a photograph, so that would be a new product direction. 100 requests is not an impressive market request, and to build that would be reactive and a poor business decision.

We will remain true to what the software is built to do.

Bob

Piem · 25th April 2006, 20:55

Fine Bob .. If the product line doesn't change for Hxn2 as well for Cs5 (because we know the global possibilities of our dear 2 softwares..they were until now on a good ascendant line (not talking buizness but quality)) ,it's ok.
thank you

25th April 2006, 18:44	#41 (permalink)
LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556	Hello Bob DAZ is "well known" for having VERY POORLY chosen and not-very-dedicated and also very small Beta-Testing team. We are all aware of LEGENDARY stability of Bryce 5 (by Corel) and Carrara 5 came very close to that. Many Bryce 5.5 users are still having lot of problems and bugs, and it looks like DAZ stopped addresing these with "promise" of Bryce 6. My question is: did Eovia part of the team kept it's current line of the testers and rights to choose them, or DAZ is going to take over ? I ask this becouse it is the most crucial element in releasing stable releases, which were expected and delivered per usual by the great Eovia team. Thanks for your time. __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

25th April 2006, 19:02	#45 (permalink)
achrystie Spline Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 57	Same here. Reactor, I asked this same question about an hour ago, no response yet. Apparently if I was one of the lambs to the slaughter and just wanted to "get the software ASAP no matter the price" (as some have pretty much said), and all that mattered to me were release dates to soothe my instant gratification, I'd be responded to immediately. Maybe if I had preordered on day one without ever even trying the software, I'd get a response to any emotional; "Will Daz love me like Eovia did question I wanted." However, ask a direct question, regarding actually evaluating my potential $200+ purchase and I can't even get a "We're not sure yet but we will let you know ASAP." If you check your sales records, I'm a Bryce 5.5 owner, if that helps.

25th April 2006, 19:06	#48 (permalink)
Nichod Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 612	achrystie- It has been stated from the get go that the special pricing will be retained on hexagon for awhile. And a demo will be available prior to the end of the special pricing. __________________ Email Me. Visit my blog! Get hundreds of shader presets! Get Art of Shaders! And a preview for Art of Skin is now available. AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-40 (2.2GHz/1MB L2 Cache) 1280 MB DDR 333mHz RAM 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM) 60 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800) I use.

25th April 2006, 19:10	#49 (permalink)
achrystie Spline Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 57	Hah. A few minutes late on my post. Thanks for the response Bob, as vague as it may be. Sorry for the sarcasm but this whole thing has been like watching a train wreck. All I can say is what I said before, I'm not buying the car without driving it, and I'm not buying the car for a higher price because you didn't "let" me drive it first.

25th April 2006, 19:12	#50 (permalink)
achrystie Spline Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 57	It has? I must have missed that Nichod, can you point me to the post/announcement that says, now that DAZ owns the product, that the pricing will stay low and a demo will be available before that pricing structure goes away? Maybe it's my old age, or the rate at which this forum is updating.

25th April 2006, 18:45	#42 (permalink)
Reactor NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 117	Bob, I had plans to try the Hex 2 demo before April 30th, and then purchase (if I liked it) at the $200 price. Will this still be possible for me? I do not have plans to purchase Hex 2 if the price is over $200, which is why I ask.

25th April 2006, 19:04	#46 (permalink)
EoviaBob Cube Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 64	I need to take a short break to address some Hexagon 2 deliverables. I'll be back shortly. -bob

25th April 2006, 19:05	#47 (permalink)
Reactor NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 117	Thanks Bob! I'll wait for the Hex 2 trial and trust there will be a cheaper price point for those who get in quickly after it's out.

25th April 2006, 19:19	#51 (permalink)
philebus Spline Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 37	That the Carrara team has been retained is very re-assuring but I would like to know more about the continued support for Poser import. I could never quite get into the DAZ Studio interface but I do like Poser's, along with Poser's dynamic cloth. I'm also keen to know about the future of Hexagon. Will it remain a stand alone program or will it be integrated into Carrara?

25th April 2006, 19:20	#52 (permalink)
Reactor NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 117	Just one quick thing- thanks to Bob and the mods for dropping by to answer all of the questions. It's much appreciated.

25th April 2006, 20:27	#54 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	Fiddle at the wake I suppose for most of us only time will tell whether our hopes for the future of Hexegon and Carrara will be answered. The stagnation of Bryce is a legitimate cause for concern for the users of both Carrara and Hexegon. I also fully acknowledge the exciting potential of such a fusion. However you have been very straight and clear with the user base with your replies and I trust this clarity of communication will continue as a new era dawns. I myself have only been using Carrara and Hexegon for a short while and have quickly come to hold the team at Eovia France in utmost respect and affection and hope their brilliance will continue to be utilised in future development? __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

25th April 2006, 20:27	#55 (permalink)
Trothgard Vertex Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 8	I posted this over in the Hex site and this forum moves too fast for me to keep refreshing it every quick moment I can steal away from my work. But hopefully I can get a quickie answer: I was planning on awaiting the demo for Hex2 seeing as I just got Hex at the end of February (just my luck... upgrade announced a week after I got it too). I was tickled pink with the $99 upgrade price, but now on the eovia site there is neither hide nor hair of this deal. Will this deal still be offered through Daz or those of us who are trying to justify a $99 expenditure SOL until this acquisition sorts itself out? __________________ They say the devil is in the details, the devil must hate my models then

25th April 2006, 20:32	#56 (permalink)
Piem Booh! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rennes/fr Posts: 6,609	hello !! I have a question for Bob..and the Daz crew (sorry for my english) lets go : If 100 users asked a thing like :"We would want a function to make 3d starting from a photograph" And,if in the same time,30 users would ask you for a advanced modelisation function implementation.important for pros users ...What would you make? Thanks

25th April 2006, 20:44	#58 (permalink)
schuubars Spline Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Switzerland/BL Posts: 52	First sorry for my bad english, nice little forum here. Another question. Could it now happen that i will get every week a promotion mail in my email box for this premade content?(from daz) (i would call it spam...IMO) I really hope not.

25th April 2006, 20:55	#60 (permalink)
Piem Booh! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rennes/fr Posts: 6,609	Fine Bob .. If the product line doesn't change for Hxn2 as well for Cs5 (because we know the global possibilities of our dear 2 softwares..they were until now on a good ascendant line (not talking buizness but quality)) ,it's ok. thank you

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