Eovia To Make Announcement On April 25 - Page 3 - Polyloop

Corndog · 25th April 2006, 07:20

Its time... Where might the announcement be ??

toonman · 25th April 2006, 07:46

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Originally Posted by Corndog

Its time... Where might the announcement be ??

It was supposed to be announced at www.eovia.com.
I hope they changed their minds and decided not to post it!!!

JakalDesign · 25th April 2006, 07:49

Announcement is 12:00am pacific time.

I also wonder if this site is going to become DAZ3D.net?

Piem · 25th April 2006, 08:09

If it is so ,I quit
I have nothing against toys ,and Poser or daz stuffs..nothing against it's people ..but I don't want to say..woao..marvellous !! when they are not.
they are not to my eyes..geometries are all the same (poser like)..texturing is all the same..(at least at the front page)

I guess we are waiting for strong clarifications

Grendel · 25th April 2006, 08:19

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Originally Posted by Piem

If it is so ,I quit
I have nothing against toys ,and Poser or daz stuffs ..but I don't want to say..woao..marvellous !!
they are not to my eyes..geometries are all the same (poesr like)..texturing is all the same..(at least at the front page)

I agree 100%, I realize that some people like Poser but I detest even seeing it.

Quote:

I do not buy premade content.. nor will I ever... WTF! I am accualy quite steamed at the moment.

I know this is throwing stones at some users, but I have a huge problem with the "premade content and hit render" system. A big WTF!

staigerman · 25th April 2006, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Patrick210

From what they've said at least half of Eovia's customers are on PC, if not more. They wouldn't drop PC for Mac only.

true, like with Quicktime Pro

Naes3d · 25th April 2006, 09:02

I never used Poser for it's premade content, but I have never been able to grokk the extreme hatred that is leveled at those who choose to use Poser content.

I mean, aren't we all guilty of the same type of 'crime' by creating content using software we didn't code ourselves?

JakalDesign · 25th April 2006, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naes3d

I never used Poser for it's premade content, but I have never been able to grokk the extreme hatred that is leveled at those who choose to use Poser content.

I mean, aren't we all guilty of the same type of 'crime' by creating content using software we didn't code ourselves?

Im not sure what you are trying to say... but creative "artistic" work should not be purchased off a shelf that any monkey can use. I make all of my own models, textures.. etc. This is my creative tallent going into my artwork.. not Billy Bob's character with John Doe's textures and Sally's scene slapped together, then hitting one button to render out the scene and call it art.

I dont hate these people... but please, Eovia and spent the last 6 years developing this software to make it easier for true artists to create with. Why should any Eovia artist want a company like DAZ to buy this company (and we all know this is going to happen) and turn its product line into premade content render engines?

Grendel · 25th April 2006, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naes3d

I mean, aren't we all guilty of the same type of 'crime' by creating content using software we didn't code ourselves?

So a woodworker is comitting a crime by not raising the tree and cutting it down himself, or same for a sculptor? i don't know any who quarry there own stone

Grendel · 25th April 2006, 10:11

I just viewed the eovia site and Amapi is no longer represented. I just bought Amapi Pro to stay with eovia product group rather than Rhino and now I may have a dead end tool. They could ahve at least made the tutorial video available for download before pulling the plug.

If this is so and they only have an agreement to develop Hex to 2.1 in place I would like to see Laurent and the whole dev team leave, make their own modeling app combining the best of both and kick ass.....

LoneGunman · 25th April 2006, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakalDesign

Im not sure what you are trying to say... but creative "artistic" work should not be purchased off a shelf that any monkey can use. I make all of my own models, textures.. etc. This is my creative tallent going into my artwork.. not Billy Bob's character with John Doe's textures and Sally's scene slapped together, then hitting one button to render out the scene and call it art.

I dont hate these people... but please, Eovia and spent the last 6 years developing this software to make it easier for true artists to create with. Why should any Eovia artist want a company like DAZ to buy this company (and we all know this is going to happen) and turn its product line into premade content render engines?

It's almost funny how much they defend their dress-up-the-barby-doll/weekend-cookie-cutter-artist efforts and dare to call it a PIPE-LINE ?

One of the main reasons I deleted my gallery on Renderosity and left it forever

JakalDesign · 25th April 2006, 10:13

I dont know if you also noticed that Hexagon is no longer for sale.. any version.

JakalDesign · 25th April 2006, 10:22

Oh, and one other thing, does anybody here think that an artist that is looking to make a respectable name for themself is the CG community would want their name in anyway associated with DAZ? Not me my friends... what am I suppost to say on my resume when getting a job in computer graphics... yeah, I use DAZ software for my creations.... HA HA HA... I DONT THINK SO!

Grendel · 25th April 2006, 10:22

Hex is still there, they have to recoup some of the development investment.

100% agreed Jakal..

JakalDesign · 25th April 2006, 10:28

What im talking about is the main site part for Hex... this is on the Hex 1.2 page.

Notice the comment under Order now... same way on the Hex 2 page.

Senyac · 25th April 2006, 11:15

Hasnt the deadline for the announcement from eovia past?
and still no word from eovia at all ?
They only changed a few items on the website as you have shown but no announcement!
Seams like Daz took over and so eovia no longer cares for its users??
when I hex being released ? ect.ect
I am not happy about this and the future looks bleak

maybe time for me to take another look at lightwave

moonshot · 25th April 2006, 12:25

There's nothing like making all your models yourself. Getting asked, "did you make that?", when using a morphed DAZ Victoria for example and then you are finding yourself answering, "well, äh yes, kind of...", doesn't really make you proud. Well, it's up to the individual how they can live with that. The only thing I hope, is that semi-pros don't spoil the price for real professional work, just like it happenend in Webdesign, where Frontpage- or NetObjectsFusion-Webdesigners have spoiled the market for those making professional coded webpages.

the_peculier · 25th April 2006, 13:17

I thought this was the "Eovia To Make Announcement On April 25" thread not the Snobs'R'Us thread!

Have you actually read what some of you are posting? How condescending can you get? I'm actually surprised some of you haven't walked into more lamposts through looking down your noses too much.

As someone learning to model through Hexagon I am saddened to see such acidic comments aimed at those of us who aren't as adept at the 3D creative process and have to rely on parts made by others. The composition is still us. The camera angle is still us. The lighting settings are still us.

Do you go through schools and laugh at the students artwork because it doesn't match your own?

Corndog · 25th April 2006, 13:42

[quote=the_peculier]

As someone learning to model through Hexagon I am saddened to see such acidic comments aimed at those of us who aren't as adept at the 3D creative process and have to rely on parts made by others. The composition is still us. The camera angle is still us. The lighting settings are still us.

QUOTE]

Actually I am a 3D newbee and I agree with the others. Its not snobish its pride in saying I made that, ALL of that, not well I purchased the model and swang the camera around.

Corndog · 25th April 2006, 13:47

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Originally Posted by EoviaBob

We will be making a very important announcement on April 25. In preparation for this announcement, there will be some changes made to the Eovia website and webstore. These changes will begin to take effect at midnight California time on April 24.

Thank you for your support.

Best regards,
Bob Stockwell
Director, Sales and Marketing
Eovia Corp.

Thanks for telling us this because we would have never noticed the text you removed. As for the announcement it looks like we had to hear it from others.

Why do I feel like I was duped and made a bad investment ?
That is a serious question

25th April 2006, 07:20	#41 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	Its time... Where might the announcement be ?? __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

25th April 2006, 10:22	#54 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,264	Hex is still there, they have to recoup some of the development investment. 100% agreed Jakal.. Attached Thumbnails

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Senyac Extrusion Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 153	Hasnt the deadline for the announcement from eovia past? and still no word from eovia at all ? They only changed a few items on the website as you have shown but no announcement! Seams like Daz took over and so eovia no longer cares for its users?? when I hex being released ? ect.ect I am not happy about this and the future looks bleak maybe time for me to take another look at lightwave __________________ Senyac P4 3ghz -800mhz FSB -2gig DDR ram Win XP Pro GF 6800 512Mbs DDR3 ram 2x 120GB - 7200RPM-8MB CACHE SATA 500GB USB Lacie d2 BigDisk 52X CDRW 16X DVD-RW HP DVD movie writer dc3000

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Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	[quote=the_peculier] As someone learning to model through Hexagon I am saddened to see such acidic comments aimed at those of us who aren't as adept at the 3D creative process and have to rely on parts made by others. The composition is still us. The camera angle is still us. The lighting settings are still us. QUOTE] Actually I am a 3D newbee and I agree with the others. Its not snobish its pride in saying I made that, ALL of that, not well I purchased the model and swang the camera around. __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

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25th April 2006, 07:49	#43 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 179	Announcement is 12:00am pacific time. I also wonder if this site is going to become DAZ3D.net?

25th April 2006, 08:09	#44 (permalink)
Piem Booh! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rennes/fr Posts: 6,644	If it is so ,I quit I have nothing against toys ,and Poser or daz stuffs..nothing against it's people ..but I don't want to say..woao..marvellous !! when they are not. they are not to my eyes..geometries are all the same (poser like)..texturing is all the same..(at least at the front page) I guess we are waiting for strong clarifications

25th April 2006, 09:02	#47 (permalink)
Naes3d Box modeling Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231	I never used Poser for it's premade content, but I have never been able to grokk the extreme hatred that is leveled at those who choose to use Poser content. I mean, aren't we all guilty of the same type of 'crime' by creating content using software we didn't code ourselves?

25th April 2006, 10:11	#50 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,264	I just viewed the eovia site and Amapi is no longer represented. I just bought Amapi Pro to stay with eovia product group rather than Rhino and now I may have a dead end tool. They could ahve at least made the tutorial video available for download before pulling the plug. If this is so and they only have an agreement to develop Hex to 2.1 in place I would like to see Laurent and the whole dev team leave, make their own modeling app combining the best of both and kick ass.....

25th April 2006, 10:13	#52 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 179	I dont know if you also noticed that Hexagon is no longer for sale.. any version.

25th April 2006, 10:22	#53 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 179	Oh, and one other thing, does anybody here think that an artist that is looking to make a respectable name for themself is the CG community would want their name in anyway associated with DAZ? Not me my friends... what am I suppost to say on my resume when getting a job in computer graphics... yeah, I use DAZ software for my creations.... HA HA HA... I DONT THINK SO!

25th April 2006, 10:28	#55 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 179	What im talking about is the main site part for Hex... this is on the Hex 1.2 page. Notice the comment under Order now... same way on the Hex 2 page.

25th April 2006, 12:25	#57 (permalink)
moonshot Spline Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 40	There's nothing like making all your models yourself. Getting asked, "did you make that?", when using a morphed DAZ Victoria for example and then you are finding yourself answering, "well, äh yes, kind of...", doesn't really make you proud. Well, it's up to the individual how they can live with that. The only thing I hope, is that semi-pros don't spoil the price for real professional work, just like it happenend in Webdesign, where Frontpage- or NetObjectsFusion-Webdesigners have spoiled the market for those making professional coded webpages.

25th April 2006, 13:17	#58 (permalink)
the_peculier Spline Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Posts: 45	I thought this was the "Eovia To Make Announcement On April 25" thread not the Snobs'R'Us thread! Have you actually read what some of you are posting? How condescending can you get? I'm actually surprised some of you haven't walked into more lamposts through looking down your noses too much. As someone learning to model through Hexagon I am saddened to see such acidic comments aimed at those of us who aren't as adept at the 3D creative process and have to rely on parts made by others. The composition is still us. The camera angle is still us. The lighting settings are still us. Do you go through schools and laugh at the students artwork because it doesn't match your own?