How does the relax UV work? - Polyloop

juanmanuel · 9th May 2006, 15:46

The manual just mention it in one paragraph, and the tutorials do not mention it at all. I have no problem with the unfold function, but when I try to relax the UVs, all I get is my uvs getting unwelded!

I tried selecting by faces, edges and vertices before relaxing, but they get unselected as soon as I click the relax button.

Help a newbie!

Thomas · 9th May 2006, 16:22

perhaps because the were didn't weld at all before?

Try to suppress superposed UVs (in the utility panel)

Grendel · 9th May 2006, 16:23

It works as a brush that allows you to move the vertices under its influence, it works faster than trying to sort out UV overlap than pulling individual vertices.

Try this UV map a sphere, set your seams then validate your map. Now click the relax UV button at the top of the UV editor window and you can adjust the size, strength and hardness of the brush in the properties palette and sweep over the vertices while holding LMB to move them around working out overlaps.

Piem · 9th May 2006, 19:31

Yes as Thomas said (you can trust him

).Your uvws are already disconeted.
it can happens (almost with imports)
select your object then click on the uvs weld.Utilities/etc..

(nota ,some points may have to be be target weld ,but not so often)

juanmanuel · 9th May 2006, 22:04

thank you! I knew it was something simple, I just needed to know what I was missing

LaRoy · 10th May 2006, 05:38

Cool, I'm glad someone else noticed the disconnected UV issue (on imported models)! I didn't know that there was any way to fix it.

By the way, is there any way to secure the border of the UV mesh to keep the borders from moving when using the relax brush?

-LaRoy

bwtr · 10th May 2006, 05:54

Reading the above bits by sundry people???---for crying out loud---- why do we have to behave or think in such a STUPID unnatural way. It's all getting beyond a joke. When!!!! will you computer designer people realise that most of those who end up paying your wages are NORMAL!

Sorry to be carrying on, but Im'e fed up with illogical ways of doing things. That "oh yes this happens" being accepted as normal accepted? difficultiesThat you do something here but there you do it differently. It's called a "--" this here but printed here as "--" but most say this "--" for it anyway.

I find out that if I don't validate here Things go wrong but if I do validate there things will go wrong----but who knows when which choice is correct?

Nate Owens · 10th May 2006, 07:36

Valium

Piem · 10th May 2006, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwtr

That "oh yes this happens" being accepted as normal accepted? difficultiesThat you do something here but there you do it differently. It's called a "--" this here but printed here as "--" but most say this "--" for it anyway.

I find out that if I don't validate here Things go wrong but if I do validate there things will go wrong----but who knows when which choice is correct?

Just take the RELAX (not a valium)to check it.
Don't you go a little bit too far ?
It happens often between 3D applications ..when you know this ;you never ask again.
(dito for zbrush with its standard import ..there is things to merge also)

bwtr · 10th May 2006, 08:15

Im'e not talking about "between" apps--but problems in the same app!
Even Thomas, when explaining something here, will often use a name for something that is not used as a name in the app.

To show I have a sense of humour! Who thought up the name Gizmos to describe Therbligs?

Nate Owens · 10th May 2006, 14:41

Take a valium.

Chill out.

Learn Relax method in software.

Most of this is clear as mud to me too. I just keep on plugging along and find that many of the "problems" I encounter are in my (lack of) understanding. Like a bulldog, I keep chawing on it and bit-by-bit the little light bulbs click on and I find what drove me nuts yesterday is another trick in the bag today.

None of us are "normal" - normal people wouldn't even know what 3D is if they hadn't gone to the movies to see Shrek and Toy Story.

Hang with it. Have fun. It will get better with all the help from these friendly smart folks in the forum.

Yes... a lot of this (3D stuff) is in the model A stage, crank with hand crank to start, improvise to keep it running. That is improving at light speed, and Hex is still just a baby, a baby with some huge potential... I want to watch him grow

Being abnormal is a trip

juanmanuel · 10th May 2006, 15:25

Anyway, Thomas is french, just as I am mexican, and I am sure lots of us do not have english as a mother tongue, so the questioning and answering in inherently influenced by the native language of the speaker. And I like it that way. The experience is richer. Actually I think that interfaces of 3d programs have improved enormously. Faster, anyway, than understanding between humans in oh so many thousand years...

Returning to the topic, the screenshot of the menu helped a lot, thank you Piem!

Thomas · 10th May 2006, 19:10

bwtr: sorry, but it's -my- forum, -not- an official forum, I try to check -all- the messages posted (and as you can imagine, a lot are posted everyday) and also, try to answer as best as I can. But I can't check each time if the name I use is exactly the same in the application... and in my messages, I was speaking of a concept, NOT a tool.

Sometimes, I think I'll do better than answering to some messages. But in this message, it's not Juanmanuel who complain... Topic closed.

9th May 2006, 15:46	#1 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241	How does the relax UV work? The manual just mention it in one paragraph, and the tutorials do not mention it at all. I have no problem with the unfold function, but when I try to relax the UVs, all I get is my uvs getting unwelded! I tried selecting by faces, edges and vertices before relaxing, but they get unselected as soon as I click the relax button. Help a newbie!

9th May 2006, 16:22	#2 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,295	perhaps because the were didn't weld at all before? Try to suppress superposed UVs (in the utility panel) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

9th May 2006, 19:31	#4 (permalink)
Piem Booh! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rennes/fr Posts: 6,640	Yes as Thomas said (you can trust him ).Your uvws are already disconeted. it can happens (almost with imports) select your object then click on the uvs weld.Utilities/etc.. (nota ,some points may have to be be target weld ,but not so often) Attached Thumbnails

10th May 2006, 07:36	#8 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,005	Valium __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

10th May 2006, 14:41	#11 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,005	Take a valium. Chill out. Learn Relax method in software. Most of this is clear as mud to me too. I just keep on plugging along and find that many of the "problems" I encounter are in my (lack of) understanding. Like a bulldog, I keep chawing on it and bit-by-bit the little light bulbs click on and I find what drove me nuts yesterday is another trick in the bag today. None of us are "normal" - normal people wouldn't even know what 3D is if they hadn't gone to the movies to see Shrek and Toy Story. Hang with it. Have fun. It will get better with all the help from these friendly smart folks in the forum. Yes... a lot of this (3D stuff) is in the model A stage, crank with hand crank to start, improvise to keep it running. That is improving at light speed, and Hex is still just a baby, a baby with some huge potential... I want to watch him grow Being abnormal is a trip __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

9th May 2006, 16:23	#3 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,262	It works as a brush that allows you to move the vertices under its influence, it works faster than trying to sort out UV overlap than pulling individual vertices. Try this UV map a sphere, set your seams then validate your map. Now click the relax UV button at the top of the UV editor window and you can adjust the size, strength and hardness of the brush in the properties palette and sweep over the vertices while holding LMB to move them around working out overlaps.

9th May 2006, 22:04	#5 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241	thank you! I knew it was something simple, I just needed to know what I was missing

10th May 2006, 05:38	#6 (permalink)
LaRoy Vertex Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10	Cool, I'm glad someone else noticed the disconnected UV issue (on imported models)! I didn't know that there was any way to fix it. By the way, is there any way to secure the border of the UV mesh to keep the borders from moving when using the relax brush? -LaRoy

10th May 2006, 05:54	#7 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,094	Reading the above bits by sundry people???---for crying out loud---- why do we have to behave or think in such a STUPID unnatural way. It's all getting beyond a joke. When!!!! will you computer designer people realise that most of those who end up paying your wages are NORMAL! Sorry to be carrying on, but Im'e fed up with illogical ways of doing things. That "oh yes this happens" being accepted as normal accepted? difficultiesThat you do something here but there you do it differently. It's called a "--" this here but printed here as "--" but most say this "--" for it anyway. I find out that if I don't validate here Things go wrong but if I do validate there things will go wrong----but who knows when which choice is correct?

10th May 2006, 08:15	#10 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,094	Im'e not talking about "between" apps--but problems in the same app! Even Thomas, when explaining something here, will often use a name for something that is not used as a name in the app. To show I have a sense of humour! Who thought up the name Gizmos to describe Therbligs?

10th May 2006, 15:25	#12 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241	Anyway, Thomas is french, just as I am mexican, and I am sure lots of us do not have english as a mother tongue, so the questioning and answering in inherently influenced by the native language of the speaker. And I like it that way. The experience is richer. Actually I think that interfaces of 3d programs have improved enormously. Faster, anyway, than understanding between humans in oh so many thousand years... Returning to the topic, the screenshot of the menu helped a lot, thank you Piem!

10th May 2006, 19:10	#13 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,295	bwtr: sorry, but it's -my- forum, -not- an official forum, I try to check -all- the messages posted (and as you can imagine, a lot are posted everyday) and also, try to answer as best as I can. But I can't check each time if the name I use is exactly the same in the application... and in my messages, I was speaking of a concept, NOT a tool. Sometimes, I think I'll do better than answering to some messages. But in this message, it's not Juanmanuel who complain... Topic closed. __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

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