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Old 8th May 2006, 10:18   #21 (permalink)
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Well ,it's easy to set a new pivot for any selection. and take the scale tool or staying with the global manipulator (the scale tool is more complete).

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Old 8th May 2006, 10:40   #22 (permalink)
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I've re-read the posts... thanks everyone for the time which has been spent. I'll deal with this at a later date. For now, I'm dropping back to lightwave untill I have more time to mess with this. There appears to be more then just an issue with mechanically doing what I want, more like a conceptual difference between hexagon and Lightwave. Many other seemingly simple things I have needed to relearn, like for example how to simply add geometry to (and again with inorganics) for the purpose of flow or refining. I would have never have guessed that by selecting two points and hitting connect I could do what lightwave does by selecting a quad and hitting 'triangulate'. I have more issues then figuring out how to do things. Whoever designed hexagon thinks very differently to what I'm used to with Lightwave. In fact, I'm having newfound respect for Lightwave from this experience. In Lightwave there are at least 20 ways to do the same thing... so regardless what you try, you are pretty confident that results will ensue. I'm finding Hexagon though extremely interactive... is also very limited in flexibility and expansiveness. To be fair. I paid $1.99 for hexagon, and it's bairly out of diapers.

From this experience thus far I've decided that hexagon is a keeper. I'm here for the long haul. I VERY much appreciate everyone's willingness to jump in with help. Hopefully someday I can return the favour.

Here's what I've been doing lately. I wanted hexagon to add some organics to my mostly 'things' portfolio. Anyone want to, I appreciate all comments/critiques...

http://iandavis.ws/maxwell

Again, thanks all. I'll attack this matter after my work is done... Next step... painting with displacement!! I have a tablet and itchy fingers.
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Old 8th May 2006, 11:10   #23 (permalink)
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Yes i am a Lw user. i have to say this : hex is quite good, for organic modelling and thats not bad for inorganic too.
yep it could miss some tools, and has definitely a different workflow. modes in Lw allow a faster workflow IMO, just because they're more visual in many ways. but i found also Hex advantages with the manipulator, no broken simmetry modelling, eges tools, connect, curves etc. most of times also we tend to work onto an app and get habits oud of this, so that we don't find the correct workflow to do things fast in other apps, but yuou're right on the less clicks statements. this is a thing that even Modo misses in some area.
however, aligning points down the x axis was not difficult.

i found hex great for UV unwrapping, and painting, displacement painting.
hex is still young, so can miss some tools, and be a bit slow depending also on the machine you use , buts a BIG step towards total and fast integration of modelling+painting+sculpting workflow, so a great complement to Lw indeed.
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Old 10th May 2006, 12:43   #24 (permalink)
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using the scale tool worked well with me with point not yet aligned to an axis and to flatten em in x=o i simply choosed all edges of my half of the model, then converted the selection to points (even if this couldn't be necessary) then hit scale, typed o both in size on x axis and position and points became aligned.
Yeah, there are some things which are VERY confusing after using LW.
Lw is so inuitive it's a struggle to get to grips with some of the behaviours of Hex2.
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Old 10th May 2006, 12:50   #25 (permalink)
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i found also Hex advantages with the manipulator, no broken simmetry modelling, eges tools, connect, curves etc.

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i found hex great for UV unwrapping, and painting, displacement painting.
hex is still young, so can miss some tools, and be a bit slow depending also on the machine you use , buts a BIG step towards total and fast integration of modelling+painting+sculpting workflow, so a great complement to Lw indeed.
Agree with just about everything you've said here, and the price, well, ya can't beat that can ya?

Good to see some fellow wavers here, as you say, Hex2 is a nice tie-in for LW and hopefully 2.1 will sort out some of the things people are complaining about in terms of stability etc.

One thing I do wish Hex2 had was the smooth way we can locate objects precisely in 3D space in LW and swap and change viewports with ANY tool. I've found Hex baulks at that if I try it with some tools. Also ot being able to build around the origin is somwhat throwing me off. Admittedly, I've not put a huge amount of time in yet, but this for me is where LW shines, in it's ease of getting to grips with basic modelling.
As you say though, Hex2 is "young", so we can hope things will only improve.
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Old 10th May 2006, 13:48   #26 (permalink)
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and we also deserve updates for free!
what we could also do, is make a list of known bugs/interesting behaviour or features form Lwvers to give the etm some support and see how it fixes these little quirks.
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Old 10th May 2006, 14:53   #27 (permalink)
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As I understand it, all 2.X updates for Hex2 are going to be free, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Old 10th May 2006, 16:27   #28 (permalink)
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yep i read the same.
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