Feedback from Mac G4 (Dual)users running Hex2 with ATI Radeon 9200 128mb card ? - Polyloop

Aunty Betty · 1st May 2006, 15:45

Ok it seems the options for Mac G4 Quicksilver models and Dual optical is slim with regard ATI .

There is the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb- Mac & PC which most discussions groups suggests does not work with Quicksilver models.

"The Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition is not compatible with the "Quicksilver", "Quicksilver 2002" or the "Digital Audio" PowerMac G4. If a Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition board is installed in one of these systems the result is a blank display."

Next The Radeon 9800 Pro G4 & G5 Edition maxed out to 256mb this is a re-release from ATI of their popular Radeon 9800 Pro card. It is the only card currently available that will work on the 2x AGP slots of the early PowerMac G4s - the AGP Graphics and Gigabit Ethernet.

This card will work in OSX 10.2.5 and above.

This card is known to have issues with games freezing etc fixes posted are as follows --try the ATI ROM Update: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21572

Also" the problem was down to unmatched memory in my G4 PowerMac. Amazing! I posted on the Apple Forums, and an engineer replied, stating that although you do not have to match your RAM in the G4, it is always best to. Something to do with how the Graphics card and processor fetch data through the bus to memory. Anyway I removed a single 512MB DIMM and Voila, it all worked!

Also: There are two things you need to know about the new card, First, it requires a power source. It comes with a pass-through power cable with 4 pin Molex connectors. If you are using it on a G4 Power Mac, there should be some spare power drops inside. If you are using it on a G5 Power Mac, you'll need to remove the SuperDrive or Combo DVD/CD optical drive so you can reach its power connector and attach the pass-through power cable for the Radeon 9800 Pro.

ATI warns that this card requires a 300 watt power supply but owners with Sawtooth G4 Power Macs with 200 watt power supplies have not reported any problems running it.

Second caveat: It has one DVI and one VGA port. I wish it had two DVI ports but that would have required a major redesign. You see, this card is, in reality, the old 128MB 9800 Pro with memory added. I complained back when the 128MB card came out that it should have had two DVI ports. I argued that you can always "dumb" a DVI port down to VGA, but you can't turn a VGA magically into a true digital video port.

DESIGNED FOR MID RANGE POWER
I think the Radeon 9800 Pro is a great upgrade for those G4 Power Mac owners who want Core Image and OpenGL acceleration but don't want to pay an "arm and a leg." I've run this card on a everything from a "hopped up" naked G4 Cube (too big to fit with the case on) to the "last great" G4 Power Mac, the dual 1.42GHz "FW800" with L3 cache. It's always been faster than any other retail or OEM graphics card for those systems -- significantly faster. For the G5 Power Mac owner, it's much faster than the Radeon 9600, 9600 Pro, 9600 XT, and GeForce FX 5200 -- cards that came as factory default. And it costs hundreds less than the GeForce 6800 GT, Ultra, and Radeon X800 XT kits that Apple sells in their "DISPLAYS" section

This leaves the 9200 128mb which is reported to cause issues with video and audio playback from DVD's , specifically stuttering.

As yet no word back from Nvidia.

Oh what a circus.

Aunty Betty · 1st May 2006, 21:56

Oh no I'm the only G4 user left in the world.

sadot · 2nd May 2006, 00:03

no, I still continue using my ibook g3 366Mhz-320MbRAM-4Mb-VRAM, clear does not for animations but still I continue it using

1st May 2006, 15:45	#1 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	Feedback from Mac G4 (Dual)users running Hex2 with ATI Radeon 9200 128mb card ? Ok it seems the options for Mac G4 Quicksilver models and Dual optical is slim with regard ATI . There is the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb- Mac & PC which most discussions groups suggests does not work with Quicksilver models. "The Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition is not compatible with the "Quicksilver", "Quicksilver 2002" or the "Digital Audio" PowerMac G4. If a Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Edition board is installed in one of these systems the result is a blank display." Next The Radeon 9800 Pro G4 & G5 Edition maxed out to 256mb this is a re-release from ATI of their popular Radeon 9800 Pro card. It is the only card currently available that will work on the 2x AGP slots of the early PowerMac G4s - the AGP Graphics and Gigabit Ethernet. This card will work in OSX 10.2.5 and above. This card is known to have issues with games freezing etc fixes posted are as follows --try the ATI ROM Update: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21572 Also" the problem was down to unmatched memory in my G4 PowerMac. Amazing! I posted on the Apple Forums, and an engineer replied, stating that although you do not have to match your RAM in the G4, it is always best to. Something to do with how the Graphics card and processor fetch data through the bus to memory. Anyway I removed a single 512MB DIMM and Voila, it all worked! Also: There are two things you need to know about the new card, First, it requires a power source. It comes with a pass-through power cable with 4 pin Molex connectors. If you are using it on a G4 Power Mac, there should be some spare power drops inside. If you are using it on a G5 Power Mac, you'll need to remove the SuperDrive or Combo DVD/CD optical drive so you can reach its power connector and attach the pass-through power cable for the Radeon 9800 Pro. ATI warns that this card requires a 300 watt power supply but owners with Sawtooth G4 Power Macs with 200 watt power supplies have not reported any problems running it. Second caveat: It has one DVI and one VGA port. I wish it had two DVI ports but that would have required a major redesign. You see, this card is, in reality, the old 128MB 9800 Pro with memory added. I complained back when the 128MB card came out that it should have had two DVI ports. I argued that you can always "dumb" a DVI port down to VGA, but you can't turn a VGA magically into a true digital video port. DESIGNED FOR MID RANGE POWER I think the Radeon 9800 Pro is a great upgrade for those G4 Power Mac owners who want Core Image and OpenGL acceleration but don't want to pay an "arm and a leg." I've run this card on a everything from a "hopped up" naked G4 Cube (too big to fit with the case on) to the "last great" G4 Power Mac, the dual 1.42GHz "FW800" with L3 cache. It's always been faster than any other retail or OEM graphics card for those systems -- significantly faster. For the G5 Power Mac owner, it's much faster than the Radeon 9600, 9600 Pro, 9600 XT, and GeForce FX 5200 -- cards that came as factory default. And it costs hundreds less than the GeForce 6800 GT, Ultra, and Radeon X800 XT kits that Apple sells in their "DISPLAYS" section This leaves the 9200 128mb which is reported to cause issues with video and audio playback from DVD's , specifically stuttering. As yet no word back from Nvidia. Oh what a circus. __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

1st May 2006, 21:56	#2 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	Oh no I'm the only G4 user left in the world. __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

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2nd May 2006, 00:03	#3 (permalink)
sadot yeah! thats my name Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mexico City Posts: 720	no, I still continue using my ibook g3 366Mhz-320MbRAM-4Mb-VRAM, clear does not for animations but still I continue it using