Hexagon 2.2 problem? - Polyloop

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 06:35

My memory suggests that I could fill a closed line in Hex2.1.

Is my memory failing or is this a 2.2 problem?. (Or I have I forgoten the proper way?)

David Robson · 29th June 2007, 06:46

Nope, you haven't been able to do that in any version of Hex to date.

You need to quick extrude your circle and "then" close the holes.

David

BTW How have you been finding Hex 2.2? I am underwhelmed.

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 06:53

Thanks.

BUT, should I not be able to Loop as per the attached?

Quick impression is that Displacement and Painting are good now.

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 07:20

I can not get the ends of this interpolated curve to be closed?

EDIT!! I found out that I used the Extrude Surface (which worked!??) when I should have used the Fast Extrude on the Interpolated Curve.

David Robson · 29th June 2007, 07:48

Hhmmm - that mesh looks messy.

Do you have duplicated planes there. or two identical objects overlapping?

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 08:37

David it's what happened going down the (wrong) Extrude Surface path! and following the dropdowns suggestions.

I have been experimenting with a lot of the other modelling apps since the Daz buy out and need to relearn Hexagons ways.

Thomas · 29th June 2007, 09:44

FYI: close tool doesn't put a cap on closed lines. It's here to close holes in a geometry (like filling a hole on a sphere where a polygon has been removed before)...

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 10:15

Thanks Thomas. But, to confuse the discussion, English is funny. Closed lines ARE Geometry! (Lines,surfaces,and solids in space are all geometry)

Thomas · 29th June 2007, 11:58

I mean 3D geometries. Lines have no thickness

bwtr · 29th June 2007, 15:26

Had got that Thomas thanks. There are so many descriptions of things everywhere in 3D that have different to "dictionary" meanings and, as I found with LW, what means something in one app can mean exactly the opposite in another.

Did I have grey hair before I started on 3D?

A3DLover · 29th June 2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwtr

Had got that Thomas thanks. There are so many descriptions of things everywhere in 3D that have different to "dictionary" meanings and, as I found with LW, what means something in one app can mean exactly the opposite in another.

Did I have grey hair before I started on 3D?

You mean you still have hair after getting involved in 3d?

Nate Owens · 29th June 2007, 23:51

Come down heah to the south and eat ya some grits (there's grit trees all over, so we got plenty)... then you can understand any kind of langwidge... even 3D babble

(it always sounds better with a mouthful of grits and collard-greens)

bwtr · 30th June 2007, 03:54

A Point can only be a Point when it's not a Vertex!

To make my point!

If it was not for the wine and Coopers Stout the bald spot would be huge.

bwtr · 30th June 2007, 05:17

Is it one of my days? I can not work out how to affect a booleen on this file.

Help please!

crazy wabbit · 30th June 2007, 06:00

Is this what you want?

bwtr · 30th June 2007, 06:12

Yes. But to get it I had to save the file as .car and do the boolean there.

How did you get it?

crazy wabbit · 30th June 2007, 06:28

I did it in hex. I just booleen. Select the ball first then hit booleen tool and then click on the other section.

bwtr · 30th June 2007, 06:42

What a crazy app. The attached shows as far as I can get!

Nothing other than that--NO boolean workings?

ps. Your stature grows as your ears get smaller!!!!

crazy wabbit · 30th June 2007, 06:57

Tonight I had it, my friend I have now uninstalled hex from my system.
All day crashes, it was more stable before, I am tired of bitching so I move on.
Sad to say but true.

bwtr · 30th June 2007, 07:53

I closed Hex and reinstalled the file. Worked ok then??

I find Hex much more stable and properly working that 2.1. I mean REALLY better.

I know I have found myself doing things the improper way in 2.2 but no crashes--yet! Have you, like me, been fiddling with other apps and have forgotten the very strict way Hexagon needs to be used. As Courel says, having USER bugs!

29th June 2007, 06:35	#1 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	Hexagon 2.2 problem? My memory suggests that I could fill a closed line in Hex2.1. Is my memory failing or is this a 2.2 problem?. (Or I have I forgoten the proper way?) Attached Thumbnails

29th June 2007, 06:53	#3 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	Thanks. BUT, should I not be able to Loop as per the attached? Quick impression is that Displacement and Painting are good now. Attached Thumbnails

29th June 2007, 07:20	#4 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	I can not get the ends of this interpolated curve to be closed? EDIT!! I found out that I used the Extrude Surface (which worked!??) when I should have used the Fast Extrude on the Interpolated Curve. Attached Thumbnails

29th June 2007, 09:44	#7 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,317	FYI: close tool doesn't put a cap on closed lines. It's here to close holes in a geometry (like filling a hole on a sphere where a polygon has been removed before)... __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

29th June 2007, 11:58	#9 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,317	I mean 3D geometries. Lines have no thickness __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

29th June 2007, 06:46	#2 (permalink)
David Robson Vertex Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 17	Nope, you haven't been able to do that in any version of Hex to date. You need to quick extrude your circle and "then" close the holes. David BTW How have you been finding Hex 2.2? I am underwhelmed.

29th June 2007, 07:48	#5 (permalink)
David Robson Vertex Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 17	Hhmmm - that mesh looks messy. Do you have duplicated planes there. or two identical objects overlapping?

29th June 2007, 08:37	#6 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	David it's what happened going down the (wrong) Extrude Surface path! and following the dropdowns suggestions. I have been experimenting with a lot of the other modelling apps since the Daz buy out and need to relearn Hexagons ways.

29th June 2007, 10:15	#8 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	Thanks Thomas. But, to confuse the discussion, English is funny. Closed lines ARE Geometry! (Lines,surfaces,and solids in space are all geometry)

29th June 2007, 15:26	#10 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	Had got that Thomas thanks. There are so many descriptions of things everywhere in 3D that have different to "dictionary" meanings and, as I found with LW, what means something in one app can mean exactly the opposite in another. Did I have grey hair before I started on 3D?

29th June 2007, 23:51	#12 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,013	Come down heah to the south and eat ya some grits (there's grit trees all over, so we got plenty)... then you can understand any kind of langwidge... even 3D babble (it always sounds better with a mouthful of grits and collard-greens) __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

30th June 2007, 03:54	#13 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	A Point can only be a Point when it's not a Vertex! To make my point! If it was not for the wine and Coopers Stout the bald spot would be huge.

30th June 2007, 06:00	#15 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Is this what you want? Attached Thumbnails

30th June 2007, 06:12	#16 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	Yes. But to get it I had to save the file as .car and do the boolean there. How did you get it?

30th June 2007, 06:28	#17 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	I did it in hex. I just booleen. Select the ball first then hit booleen tool and then click on the other section.

30th June 2007, 06:42	#18 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	What a crazy app. The attached shows as far as I can get! Nothing other than that--NO boolean workings? ps. Your stature grows as your ears get smaller!!!! Attached Thumbnails

30th June 2007, 06:57	#19 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Tonight I had it, my friend I have now uninstalled hex from my system. All day crashes, it was more stable before, I am tired of bitching so I move on. Sad to say but true.

30th June 2007, 07:53	#20 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,096	I closed Hex and reinstalled the file. Worked ok then?? I find Hex much more stable and properly working that 2.1. I mean REALLY better. I know I have found myself doing things the improper way in 2.2 but no crashes--yet! Have you, like me, been fiddling with other apps and have forgotten the very strict way Hexagon needs to be used. As Courel says, having USER bugs!

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