[Amapi]Amapi 8 "official" thread - Page 3 - Polyloop

artyr · 14th April 2007, 23:59

Does Amapi uses the ACIS engine from Spatial?

Jack.

Thomas · 15th April 2007, 21:09

No internal 5 bouton mouse. In fact, no custom mouse support (like Silo). But if your mouse driver is good enough, you can add yourself some itneresting shortcuts.

artyr: no, no ACIS engine (or we have to rise a lot the price of Amapi.. this lib is pretty exepensive..)

sadot · 16th April 2007, 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas

...in fact, Hexagon was "my" software, developped with all my requests ...

How many people in this world can say that...?

The Amapi news are great!

Sketchy · 16th April 2007, 04:47

If Hexagon was Thomas' software, whose software is Amapi?

Thomas · 16th April 2007, 12:45

Sketchy... mmh, more complicated answer. A lot of people are behind from its beginning, 15 years ago

But two important people are Laurent Billy and Pierre Bretagnolle (from N sided - Quidam)

Thomas · 16th April 2007, 12:49

It's time for a new feature

One of the other big request of Amapi is a better support for curves/lines creations. A lot of users are using Illustrator for importing their drawing, but doing this way is not very good, because you have to use two software, the Illustrator file format can generate several points on the same points (not very good for extrusion, punch and other NURBS tools, etc.)

Then, it's time for Amapi to have better drawing tools, and the grids are the basis.
We rework all the grid system, with, as you can see in the animated gif below, a progressive grid, which change with the zoom of the mouse. As you can imagine, you can snap on it

I will post later some drawing process.

As I said on the french part of the forum, it's not an "impressive" feature, but it's a very important feature which missed a lot to Amapi before!

larsen · 16th April 2007, 12:59

Hi Thomas. It may not be an impressive feature but it's one of my favorite! Thanks for the info!

Butch · 16th April 2007, 16:59

Can waith for more

poe · 16th April 2007, 18:41

Nice!

poe

alx · 16th April 2007, 20:51

How about internal rendering engine ?) ... maybe we'll see real-time ray tracing engine like OpenRTRT in Amapi 8 ... or ability to use external render engine ?
...anyways , thank you Thomas)

jones2000u · 17th April 2007, 01:53

yes, but Thomas, the reason for using Illustrator is that you can do a very accurate 2d drawing of components and you can move points in 2d space numerically in relation to each other. Also very quickly. So to do a basic template and export in Illustrator3 is simply a few minutes work. The one big issue I had with Amapi was that there is no easy way to reference a point - and to move it in space relative to the object/world centre, so it's much easier to draw all your 2d's in Illustrator and then combine in Amapi. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong all this while?

Thomas · 17th April 2007, 09:20

Alx: you know OpenRTRT? Damn! I don't think a lot of people are aware of this engine!

Jones: I never said that you've been doing in the wrong way. I wanted to say in fact, that the best way is to do everything in Amapi and avoiding importing your 2D drawings, because Amapi lacks these features...
If you have a couple of minutes, can you post in the feature request thread, the list of features that missed in Amapi 7.5 for 2D drawing, that you use a lot in Illustrator ?

alx · 17th April 2007, 17:22

Thomas , your words about possible support of maxwell renderer and m. Laurent Billy closeness to OpenRTRT makes our dreams about Amapi future sweeter

...the Shade render capabilitys are pretty nearly , but that workflow sometimes seems too comlicated for artist ...and not so fast

just hoping e-frontier will allow Amapi to be more flexible ... and.. and .. thank you Thomas)

mayito7777 · 17th April 2007, 17:57

Hey Thomas do you know if Amapi 7 (Designer) has any upgrade or it was tossed for only Amapi Pro?

dooki · 20th April 2007, 00:56

Wow! I leave for vacation and look at what I missed?!

Thanks Thomas for the preview, and for the hard work! Pretty exciting stuff. Look forward to the launch of Amapi 8.

-Dooki

BTW, Tuscany rocks!!!

markbremmer · 20th April 2007, 05:33

This is all very good news. :-)

Thomas · 20th April 2007, 10:54

mayito7777: I think you will be able to do an upgrade, but i'm not sure (as I said before, I'm not really aware of the marketing around Amapi 8)

Hopper · 20th April 2007, 15:58

If I am not mistaken the upgrade from Amapi 7 designer to APro8 was offered back in November when the APro8 special order offer was open. I would certainly hope so because I missed that offer but have assumed I would still be able to upgrade from Designer!

Thomas · 20th April 2007, 17:00

It was an upgrade to Amapi pro 7.52, not Apro 8.

Thomas · 23rd April 2007, 15:09

Hopper: if I don't say more, it's because I can't!

15th April 2007, 21:09	#42 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	No internal 5 bouton mouse. In fact, no custom mouse support (like Silo). But if your mouse driver is good enough, you can add yourself some itneresting shortcuts. artyr: no, no ACIS engine (or we have to rise a lot the price of Amapi.. this lib is pretty exepensive..) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

16th April 2007, 12:45	#45 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Sketchy... mmh, more complicated answer. A lot of people are behind from its beginning, 15 years ago But two important people are Laurent Billy and Pierre Bretagnolle (from N sided - Quidam) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

16th April 2007, 12:49	#46 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Grids It's time for a new feature One of the other big request of Amapi is a better support for curves/lines creations. A lot of users are using Illustrator for importing their drawing, but doing this way is not very good, because you have to use two software, the Illustrator file format can generate several points on the same points (not very good for extrusion, punch and other NURBS tools, etc.) Then, it's time for Amapi to have better drawing tools, and the grids are the basis. We rework all the grid system, with, as you can see in the animated gif below, a progressive grid, which change with the zoom of the mouse. As you can imagine, you can snap on it I will post later some drawing process. As I said on the french part of the forum, it's not an "impressive" feature, but it's a very important feature which missed a lot to Amapi before! __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

17th April 2007, 09:20	#52 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Alx: you know OpenRTRT? Damn! I don't think a lot of people are aware of this engine! Jones: I never said that you've been doing in the wrong way. I wanted to say in fact, that the best way is to do everything in Amapi and avoiding importing your 2D drawings, because Amapi lacks these features... If you have a couple of minutes, can you post in the feature request thread, the list of features that missed in Amapi 7.5 for 2D drawing, that you use a lot in Illustrator ? __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

17th April 2007, 17:57	#54 (permalink)
mayito7777 Hexagoner Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 747 My Photos: (1) Images: 13	Hey Thomas do you know if Amapi 7 (Designer) has any upgrade or it was tossed for only Amapi Pro? __________________ Seek and ye shall find. JESUS Hexagon 2\|Carrara 6 Pro\|Photoshop CS2\| Painter X http://richchurchtoday.blogspot.com/

14th April 2007, 23:59	#41 (permalink)
artyr Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Location: netherlands Posts: 22 My Photos: (0)	Does Amapi uses the ACIS engine from Spatial? Jack.

16th April 2007, 04:47	#44 (permalink)
Sketchy Box modeling Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 317 My Photos: (16)	If Hexagon was Thomas' software, whose software is Amapi?

16th April 2007, 12:59	#47 (permalink)
larsen Vertex Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 27 My Photos: (0)	Hi Thomas. It may not be an impressive feature but it's one of my favorite! Thanks for the info!

16th April 2007, 16:59	#48 (permalink)
Butch Extrusion Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 171 My Photos: (0)	Can waith for more

16th April 2007, 18:41	#49 (permalink)
poe Vertex Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3 My Photos: (0)	Nice! poe

16th April 2007, 20:51	#50 (permalink)
alx Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11 My Photos: (0)	How about internal rendering engine ?) ... maybe we'll see real-time ray tracing engine like OpenRTRT in Amapi 8 ... or ability to use external render engine ? ...anyways , thank you Thomas)

17th April 2007, 01:53	#51 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 110 My Photos: (0)	yes, but Thomas, the reason for using Illustrator is that you can do a very accurate 2d drawing of components and you can move points in 2d space numerically in relation to each other. Also very quickly. So to do a basic template and export in Illustrator3 is simply a few minutes work. The one big issue I had with Amapi was that there is no easy way to reference a point - and to move it in space relative to the object/world centre, so it's much easier to draw all your 2d's in Illustrator and then combine in Amapi. Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong all this while?

17th April 2007, 17:22	#53 (permalink)
alx Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11 My Photos: (0)	Thomas , your words about possible support of maxwell renderer and m. Laurent Billy closeness to OpenRTRT makes our dreams about Amapi future sweeter ...the Shade render capabilitys are pretty nearly , but that workflow sometimes seems too comlicated for artist ...and not so fast just hoping e-frontier will allow Amapi to be more flexible ... and.. and .. thank you Thomas)

20th April 2007, 00:56	#55 (permalink)
dooki Box modeling Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 259 My Photos: (0)	Wow! I leave for vacation and look at what I missed?! Thanks Thomas for the preview, and for the hard work! Pretty exciting stuff. Look forward to the launch of Amapi 8. -Dooki BTW, Tuscany rocks!!! __________________ PC/ P4/ /XP/ 2.4GHz/ 512RAM/ ATI Radeon 9550/256RAM Macbook Pro/Leopard/2.4GHz/4RAM/NVIDIA 8600M (256MB) eMac/ G4/Tiger/ 1.25 GHz/ 768RAM/ ATI Radeon 9200

20th April 2007, 05:33	#56 (permalink)
markbremmer Escaping to 3D worlds... Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 175 My Photos: (0) Images: 3	This is all very good news. :-) __________________ Mark Bremmer Beginner, intermediate and advanced Carrara tutorials are here.

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20th April 2007, 10:54	#57 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	mayito7777: I think you will be able to do an upgrade, but i'm not sure (as I said before, I'm not really aware of the marketing around Amapi 8) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

20th April 2007, 15:58	#58 (permalink)
Hopper Spline Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57 My Photos: (0) Images: 8	Upgrade If I am not mistaken the upgrade from Amapi 7 designer to APro8 was offered back in November when the APro8 special order offer was open. I would certainly hope so because I missed that offer but have assumed I would still be able to upgrade from Designer!

20th April 2007, 17:00	#59 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	It was an upgrade to Amapi pro 7.52, not Apro 8. __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

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Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Hopper: if I don't say more, it's because I can't! __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]