zbrush 3 - May 15th - Polyloop

are · 1st March 2007, 12:33

Just seen on zbrushcentral that v3 will be out for pc on May15th

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/sho...1&page=1&pp=15

jbshorty · 1st March 2007, 14:54

Holy Crap!!! Some of those new tools in ZB3 are completely amazing. Pixo never fails to impress. I think everybody is going to forgive them for being late on ZB3 when they realize it is worthy of being ZB4... Pixolator's description clearly mentions 1,000,000,000 polygons

. Is that onscreen in the total scene, or for just one mesh? either way, it's incredible. And the vid clearly showed a 3D perspective camera. I think it's fair to say that ZB will be king again. I might need to demo ZB (for the 5th time) when a ZB3 demo is available...

shorty

transient · 1st March 2007, 15:52

Wow...

Sketchy · 1st March 2007, 17:33

Yup, there's nothing better than the original. When I get into sculpting, I'll go for Zbrush, end of story. Patience is all I need to decipher Zbrush's strange UI.

steama · 1st March 2007, 21:00

Wow! Holy crap Zbrush 3 is the most amazing application!

Mudbox who?

Couerl · 1st March 2007, 23:40

I didn't see offhand, but I wonder if you get Zbrush 2 now if they'll give you the free upgrade still?

jbshorty · 2nd March 2007, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couerl

I didn't see offhand, but I wonder if you get Zbrush 2 now if they'll give you the free upgrade still?

I would imagine so. That's been the deal for the last 2 years. I can't see why they would recall the offer. I think Pixo will make a big push to get a lot of orders in before the release, when the price (i assume) will finally be increased. This is becoming a pretty common tactic these days, pressure people into those pre-orders to avoid kicking yourself later for not buying early... Of course, people could have bought into ZB 2 years ago under the same pressure to beat the ZB 2.5 deadline

shorty

zaxxon · 2nd March 2007, 05:14

Pixologic has an almost unreal upgrade policy. There are folks who took the original upgrade offer from 1.X to 2.0 are still getting 3.0 as a free upgrade! Nuts, but beautiful. Although at $489 (or less) this app must sell like hotcakes; as a market leader/definer and a contributor to a 2007 academy award, why not reward your early adopters? I'm in the wait for this upgrade, should be a fun May/June.

tonytrout · 2nd March 2007, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couerl

I didn't see offhand, but I wonder if you get Zbrush 2 now if they'll give you the free upgrade still?

"The upgrade to version 3 will be free of charge to all registered users (including new users who will register before the next release)." according to the note from Pixolater

Couerl · 2nd March 2007, 23:08

Well that's a pretty stellar deal for anyone who got version 1, I guess despite the fact they've had to wait so long. I liked what he said about some things looking good on paper but ended up just being "features" and they dumped them. I don't like bloated software for the sake of just having stuff, it should all make sense and be rellevant as much as possible.

Nate Owens · 3rd March 2007, 05:17

Every time I watch the demo for version 3 I sit on the edge of my seat and get blown away all over again.

What is that part where the (poly?) appears to get sucked onto the face/head model... like a vacuum mold... is it a retopo ... whatever it is it is pretty cool
Then, there is the projection onto a cube of front, side sketches for reference and then spinning it around while sculpting the model...????

Are these actually sculpting processes or just fancy film work?

Probably about a zillion questions .... it sure seems worth looking at.

Surface texture painting right on the model is something that Hex has tried... mostly in other apps it is always a big pain....

Zbrush might be tough to learn and it remains to be seen whether I can ever live with the interface and the workflow, but I gotta give it another go.... I may end up in an asylum... but it will be fun and maybe even worth the effort if I can conquer it....

Nate Owens · 3rd March 2007, 05:20

Has anyone seen anything about the pricing of 3 if you are not upgrading?

Couerl · 3rd March 2007, 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Owens

Has anyone seen anything about the pricing of 3 if you are not upgrading?

No, but I've decided to get it before it comes out and jumps up a couple hundred or more bucks.

It's a gamble, I don't like preordering things, but I liked what the guy said and it stuck with me,...
"During this process, we have refined, tested, and refined again every feature. We have also scrapped features that looked great 'on paper', but in practice were just "another feature" which - although increasing the number of features - did little to get us closer to our goal."

mykyl1966 · 4th March 2007, 04:39

It jumped a fair amount between 1.5 and 2 so I would expect the same again but no official word yet. I do think they mentioned the price upgrade before 2 came out though. That gave folks a chance to get on board.

I missed out but since getting Z2 I have not regretted it although it took a while to get my head round it. Z3 looks stunning.

Cheers

Mike R

are · 12th May 2007, 14:45

FYI - registration now open for upgrade -
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=44562

12th May 2007, 17:48

I have already register and I'm just waiting for May 15th.

Quote:

Originally Posted by are

FYI - registration now open for upgrade -
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=44562

JakalDesign · 20th May 2007, 21:18

Got my copy... they have totaly impressed me with this new version... so smooth and far better to work with.

tonytrout · 20th May 2007, 21:57

Yes got mine too, still playing with all the new shiney knobs and things. Crap navigation still in the interface, though some people like it with a tablet. Much prefer the straitforward interface and simple functionality of Mudbox, but some of the features (painting) and power of Zbrush still make it number one on the block.

Programme looks a little underdone still and I wonder if it was bought out early (if you can call three years early) and free, to stop the drain off to mudbox. Some basic crashes when flipping between UI's seems a bit amateur really although they promising a patch shortly.

Looking forward to Mudboxs answer later in the year.

What a great time to be a 3D modeller, trouble is the time you have to put in to learning new stuff, but what a pleasure it is too.

rickei · 21st May 2007, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonytrout

Programme looks a little underdone still and I wonder if it was bought out early (if you can call three years early) and free, to stop the drain off to mudbox. Some basic crashes when flipping between UI's seems a bit amateur really although they promising a patch shortly.

I think you may be right about that...it crossed my mind too.
that would explain why they have been silent about the Mac version of ZB3. (Mudbox is not avaliable on Mac, so us Mac users are not moving over to Muddox)

From what I have read on the ZB forums ZB3 seems to be missing a few things, like zaplink and some other painting/texturing features.

at least ZB2 still rocks

I guess I'll just sit and wait for my Mac version, like a good little boy

1st March 2007, 12:33	#1 (permalink)
are AKA RamPackWobble Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anglesey, North Wales, UK Posts: 216	zbrush 3 - May 15th Just seen on zbrushcentral that v3 will be out for pc on May15th http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/sho...1&page=1&pp=15 Last edited by are; 1st March 2007 at 13:07.

3rd March 2007, 05:17	#11 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,013	About that version 3 demo vid.... Every time I watch the demo for version 3 I sit on the edge of my seat and get blown away all over again. What is that part where the (poly?) appears to get sucked onto the face/head model... like a vacuum mold... is it a retopo ... whatever it is it is pretty cool Then, there is the projection onto a cube of front, side sketches for reference and then spinning it around while sculpting the model...???? Are these actually sculpting processes or just fancy film work? Probably about a zillion questions .... it sure seems worth looking at. Surface texture painting right on the model is something that Hex has tried... mostly in other apps it is always a big pain.... Zbrush might be tough to learn and it remains to be seen whether I can ever live with the interface and the workflow, but I gotta give it another go.... I may end up in an asylum... but it will be fun and maybe even worth the effort if I can conquer it.... __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

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Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,013	Has anyone seen anything about the pricing of 3 if you are not upgrading? __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

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mykyl1966 Box modeling Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 278	It jumped a fair amount between 1.5 and 2 so I would expect the same again but no official word yet. I do think they mentioned the price upgrade before 2 came out though. That gave folks a chance to get on board. I missed out but since getting Z2 I have not regretted it although it took a while to get my head round it. Z3 looks stunning. Cheers Mike R __________________ I dont believe everything I think.

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1st March 2007, 14:54	#2 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,367	Holy Crap!!! Some of those new tools in ZB3 are completely amazing. Pixo never fails to impress. I think everybody is going to forgive them for being late on ZB3 when they realize it is worthy of being ZB4... Pixolator's description clearly mentions 1,000,000,000 polygons . Is that onscreen in the total scene, or for just one mesh? either way, it's incredible. And the vid clearly showed a 3D perspective camera. I think it's fair to say that ZB will be king again. I might need to demo ZB (for the 5th time) when a ZB3 demo is available... shorty

1st March 2007, 15:52	#3 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 171	Wow...

1st March 2007, 17:33	#4 (permalink)
Sketchy Box modeling Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 317	Yup, there's nothing better than the original. When I get into sculpting, I'll go for Zbrush, end of story. Patience is all I need to decipher Zbrush's strange UI.

1st March 2007, 21:00	#5 (permalink)
steama Boulet Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 452	Wow! Holy crap Zbrush 3 is the most amazing application! Mudbox who?

1st March 2007, 23:40	#6 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,301	I didn't see offhand, but I wonder if you get Zbrush 2 now if they'll give you the free upgrade still?

2nd March 2007, 05:14	#8 (permalink)
zaxxon NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 117	Pixologic has an almost unreal upgrade policy. There are folks who took the original upgrade offer from 1.X to 2.0 are still getting 3.0 as a free upgrade! Nuts, but beautiful. Although at $489 (or less) this app must sell like hotcakes; as a market leader/definer and a contributor to a 2007 academy award, why not reward your early adopters? I'm in the wait for this upgrade, should be a fun May/June.

2nd March 2007, 23:08	#10 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,301	Well that's a pretty stellar deal for anyone who got version 1, I guess despite the fact they've had to wait so long. I liked what he said about some things looking good on paper but ended up just being "features" and they dumped them. I don't like bloated software for the sake of just having stuff, it should all make sense and be rellevant as much as possible.

12th May 2007, 14:45	#15 (permalink)
are AKA RamPackWobble Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anglesey, North Wales, UK Posts: 216	FYI - registration now open for upgrade - http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=44562

20th May 2007, 21:18	#17 (permalink)
JakalDesign Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 179	Got my copy... they have totaly impressed me with this new version... so smooth and far better to work with.

20th May 2007, 21:57	#18 (permalink)
tonytrout Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aotearoa Land of the long white cloud. Posts: 581	Yes got mine too, still playing with all the new shiney knobs and things. Crap navigation still in the interface, though some people like it with a tablet. Much prefer the straitforward interface and simple functionality of Mudbox, but some of the features (painting) and power of Zbrush still make it number one on the block. Programme looks a little underdone still and I wonder if it was bought out early (if you can call three years early) and free, to stop the drain off to mudbox. Some basic crashes when flipping between UI's seems a bit amateur really although they promising a patch shortly. Looking forward to Mudboxs answer later in the year. What a great time to be a 3D modeller, trouble is the time you have to put in to learning new stuff, but what a pleasure it is too.