total noob ask some basic and easy inputs - Polyloop

Affuso · 12th January 2007, 18:32

Hi, I got Hexagon 2.1
got a pair of question about modelling .
1) how to use the mirror functions?
I would to select and estrude a face on the side of the creature that I try to modelling and want that another face went extrude in the other side.
2) How to multitle select? I would to select more that a face at the same time , also not connected, for example the head and the point of the tail..
3) there is some brush sculpting capability in H2 but I dunno how use them. I tried to paint and sculp a mesch but , while the red circle can move up and down across the model, it do nothing.
Perhaps the poly have a too low number of face?

loloallo · 12th January 2007, 19:51

1) The first thing is to activate symetry in the right panel and define the axe. It's best to do at the beginning of the modelling. Then you can extrude with symetry.
2) Use Shift and select the faces is the basic way.
3) You have to unwrap your object first.

I think you can find more explanations in the documentation.

Magian · 12th January 2007, 20:36

Hello total noob,

1: Create part of the mesh that will be on one side (at least a face). When I model a person I will model the torso and head before I "mirror" the model. If you choose to do this, you will need to make sure that the mesh has vertices adjoined by edges all through the middle of the model. For example, make sure the model is positioned at 0 for all axes (enter 0 in the x, y, and z Position text boxes in the Properties panel). Then, make sure all vertices/edges in the middle of the model have a y position of 0.

Once you have done this, select all vertices on ONLY ONE SIDE of the mesh and DO NOT INCLUDE the middle vertices that I detailed above in the selection. Delete all of these vertices and make sure that side of the mesh has all been deleted.

Now in object select mode, select your object and then click the Symmetry tool beneath the Vertex modeling tab. In the Properties panel make sure that Clone is selected and then check the box corresponding to the axis along which you wish to create the symmetry. For example, if you are looking at the object mesh from the Front viewport and you have deleted the right side of the mesh and wish to duplicate the left side, then you should check the box next to "X+".

Finally, when you are finished modeling you will need to "collapse" your mesh so that you can export it and use it in other programs. This will combine your original mesh with the cloned mesh. You can do this by selecting both objects (the original mesh and the cloned mesh) and clicking the Weld tool under the Vertex modeling tab.

Magian · 12th January 2007, 21:09

3. I have never been able to "paint" onto the mesh because my graphics chip/driver do not support OpenGL 2. However, from what I understand you must:

Create UV mapping for the object.
Assign the faces of the object to a shading domain or domains
Assign a material to the shading domain(s)

Also, when you select the Paint tool make sure that you have the texture channel selected in the Properties tray (it should turn blue) and that you have the shading domain selected in the Shading domain tray.

Good luck.

Affuso · 13th January 2007, 00:11

thanks. I make some try .
The paint brushes are for sculping the mesh like zbrush , not really for painter it or not?

Patrick210 · 13th January 2007, 03:16

They have both.

laughingnome · 13th January 2007, 13:44

the modeling brushes you are looking for are the displacement brushes, they are found in the uv and paint tab at the top of the screen.
heres a quick example of displacement scuplting using the base figure mesh from the freestuff section here.
this was just a quick 5 minute mess about on my part not a final model

stu

Affuso · 13th January 2007, 17:50

Wow! I had to make the damn thing works. I wanna make a dino thing with scale and muscles.

laughingnome · 14th January 2007, 00:57

the symmetry planes can be accessed by either the right hand panel or by right clicking.

the mirror tool is in the vertex modeling tab.

holding shift while in selection mode will multi select faces, points or edges.

stu

Affuso · 25th January 2007, 17:07

Total Noob (me) had opened hexagon again , only for be stuck again.
Where is the key for subdived a model with out smooting?
I tryed to replicate this good tutorials .. http://digitalpainters.net/index.php...a1&topic=150.0

Affuso · 25th January 2007, 18:14

Found!

Affuso · 25th January 2007, 19:07

No , the tess input box in the proprierties window , disappear.

12th January 2007, 18:32	#1 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	total noob ask some basic and easy inputs Hi, I got Hexagon 2.1 got a pair of question about modelling . 1) how to use the mirror functions? I would to select and estrude a face on the side of the creature that I try to modelling and want that another face went extrude in the other side. 2) How to multitle select? I would to select more that a face at the same time , also not connected, for example the head and the point of the tail.. 3) there is some brush sculpting capability in H2 but I dunno how use them. I tried to paint and sculp a mesch but , while the red circle can move up and down across the model, it do nothing. Perhaps the poly have a too low number of face?

12th January 2007, 19:51	#2 (permalink)
loloallo Rêveur à points cardinaux Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 1,457	1) The first thing is to activate symetry in the right panel and define the axe. It's best to do at the beginning of the modelling. Then you can extrude with symetry. 2) Use Shift and select the faces is the basic way. 3) You have to unwrap your object first. I think you can find more explanations in the documentation. __________________ Laurent. Core Duo 2 E6600, Ati X1650, 2Go, Win Xp Et un tas de logiciels qui ne font rien sans imagination. Mon site Tout s'arrange toujours, même... mal.

12th January 2007, 21:09	#4 (permalink)
Magian Vertex Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Beckley, WV Posts: 25	3. I have never been able to "paint" onto the mesh because my graphics chip/driver do not support OpenGL 2. However, from what I understand you must: Create UV mapping for the object. Assign the faces of the object to a shading domain or domains Assign a material to the shading domain(s) Also, when you select the Paint tool make sure that you have the texture channel selected in the Properties tray (it should turn blue) and that you have the shading domain selected in the Shading domain tray. Good luck.

13th January 2007, 13:44	#7 (permalink)
laughingnome stu Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 909	the modeling brushes you are looking for are the displacement brushes, they are found in the uv and paint tab at the top of the screen. heres a quick example of displacement scuplting using the base figure mesh from the freestuff section here. this was just a quick 5 minute mess about on my part not a final model stu Attached Thumbnails __________________ just trying to cut down the pain threshold AMD2.4 dualcore 4 gig ram, 9400GT ,WinXP Home Last edited by laughingnome; 14th January 2007 at 00:49.

14th January 2007, 00:57	#9 (permalink)
laughingnome stu Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 909	the symmetry planes can be accessed by either the right hand panel or by right clicking. the mirror tool is in the vertex modeling tab. holding shift while in selection mode will multi select faces, points or edges. stu __________________ just trying to cut down the pain threshold AMD2.4 dualcore 4 gig ram, 9400GT ,WinXP Home

12th January 2007, 20:36	#3 (permalink)
Magian Vertex Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Beckley, WV Posts: 25	Hello total noob, 1: Create part of the mesh that will be on one side (at least a face). When I model a person I will model the torso and head before I "mirror" the model. If you choose to do this, you will need to make sure that the mesh has vertices adjoined by edges all through the middle of the model. For example, make sure the model is positioned at 0 for all axes (enter 0 in the x, y, and z Position text boxes in the Properties panel). Then, make sure all vertices/edges in the middle of the model have a y position of 0. Once you have done this, select all vertices on ONLY ONE SIDE of the mesh and DO NOT INCLUDE the middle vertices that I detailed above in the selection. Delete all of these vertices and make sure that side of the mesh has all been deleted. Now in object select mode, select your object and then click the Symmetry tool beneath the Vertex modeling tab. In the Properties panel make sure that Clone is selected and then check the box corresponding to the axis along which you wish to create the symmetry. For example, if you are looking at the object mesh from the Front viewport and you have deleted the right side of the mesh and wish to duplicate the left side, then you should check the box next to "X+". Finally, when you are finished modeling you will need to "collapse" your mesh so that you can export it and use it in other programs. This will combine your original mesh with the cloned mesh. You can do this by selecting both objects (the original mesh and the cloned mesh) and clicking the Weld tool under the Vertex modeling tab.

13th January 2007, 00:11	#5 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	thanks. I make some try . The paint brushes are for sculping the mesh like zbrush , not really for painter it or not?

13th January 2007, 03:16	#6 (permalink)
Patrick210 Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 549	They have both.

13th January 2007, 17:50	#8 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	Wow! I had to make the damn thing works. I wanna make a dino thing with scale and muscles.

25th January 2007, 17:07	#10 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	Total Noob (me) had opened hexagon again , only for be stuck again. Where is the key for subdived a model with out smooting? I tryed to replicate this good tutorials .. http://digitalpainters.net/index.php...a1&topic=150.0

25th January 2007, 18:14	#11 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	Found!

25th January 2007, 19:07	#12 (permalink)
Affuso Extrusion Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 172	No , the tess input box in the proprierties window , disappear.

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