Turning open GL off - Polyloop

crazy wabbit · 7th January 2007, 03:58

Hi, i have put a screen capture of my graphic cards settings, I like to turn off
the open Gl, but have no clue how to do it. If you can help it would be great.

The problem is I get flickers when i rotate around my objects in Hex.

Thank you for helping.

LoneGunman · 7th January 2007, 08:27

You are very funny wabbit

You cannot turn openGL ON or OFF, it is nor a process running on your machine, it is rather huge set of hardware 2D rendering procedures called by the software itself.

If Hexagon has no other way to output to it's window then calling openGL to do it, then you are stuck with it.

Carrara, for example, has other way of doing this (software renderer) hence you can choose between those two...

crazy wabbit · 7th January 2007, 16:13

Thank you so much, lonegunman, your the best. Is that a gun your holding? and I am a wabbit?

crazy wabbit · 7th January 2007, 17:37

Hex should have been made to only work with Directx, if that was done, there would not be so many incompatibility.

Evil Quail · 7th January 2007, 23:36

So is there any way to stop the flickers? I'm use hex1.2 and getting them to.

crazy wabbit · 8th January 2007, 00:01

The only way I got out of it, is to turn your system from 32 bit to 16bit
and restart your hex. Let me know if that works for you?

Plum · 8th January 2007, 04:05

Hiya.

The HUGE bonus to using OpenGL is portability. That's why Hex is on Windows & on Mac...and why it could, theoretically, be ported to Linux (crosses fingers in a vain hope...

). DirectX is good...but, from what I hear from my programmer friends, is that the 'interface' of working with DirectX is a pain in the ass.

Anyway...I'd *MUCH* rather it stay OpenGL than get screwed up by DirectX. ...and don't even get me started on DX10 for Vista... (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.txt)...

are · 8th January 2007, 12:21

Have you tried the settings in edit/preference editor/3d display/advanced ?
Try the openGL optimization settings, refesh methods and the Local Redraw

crazy wabbit · 8th January 2007, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by are

Have you tried the settings in edit/preference editor/3d display/advanced ?
Try the openGL optimization settings, refesh methods and the Local Redraw

Yes, time for a new computer I guess or graphic card. Hate to do this when every other program I use is fine. I had a demo of MODO and ran perfectly with open GL.

Little Mad now.

corzair · 11th January 2007, 22:54

I bought a cheap gfx card ATI 9550 one for £40

but trying Hex on my laptop was a disaster because its only OpenGL 1.3
and no newer drivers!

But yeah, I feel your pain - Amapi, Carrara run - even though they need a better computer really then my poor ickle notebook oh and even Moi3d beta runs beautifully on it

So why is Hex such a disaster I dunno but I gave up
I just setup a machine modest one at that with an old SocketA motherboard

and it runs all my apps fine and Hex runs better with it
But HEX needs openGL 1.4 or greater I think and you cant turn it off
it wont work then i reckon

to sumise...
check the info tab on that screen you showed to see what version your running of openGL
then check for a newer driver for you gfx card - support may have been added.

if all fails get a new gfx card that supports at least openGL1.4

crazy wabbit · 12th January 2007, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by corzair

to sumise...
check the info tab on that screen you showed to see what version your running of openGL
then check for a newer driver for you gfx card - support may have been added.

if all fails get a new gfx card that supports at least openGL1.4

Thank you for your suggestions, I think i would just get a new card, not now but when cash flows in.

Thank you.

ronjurman · 12th January 2007, 06:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

Yes, time for a new computer I guess or graphic card. Hate to do this when every other program I use is fine. I had a demo of MODO and ran perfectly with open GL.

Little Mad now.

Nothing more dangerous than a mad rabbit, especially when cornered ...

rj

crazy wabbit · 12th January 2007, 06:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronjurman

Nothing more dangerous than a mad rabbit, especially when cornered ...

rj

Do you think I am a mad Wabbit?

LoneGunman · 12th January 2007, 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

Thank you for your suggestions, I think i would just get a new card, not now but when cash flows in.

Thank you.

According to your DAZ profile you are an Art Director, you should have plenty of cash to buy one lil' graphics card, don't you think

crazy wabbit · 12th January 2007, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneGunman

According to your DAZ profile you are an Art Director, you should have plenty of cash to buy one lil' graphics card, don't you think

Sure, But I was thinking to upgrade the whole system with a highend graphic card. I really don't want to get a cheap card just to solve this one problem when all my other programs run just fine. Unless you like to send me a gift.

;)

Wabbits love gifts you know.

crazy wabbit · 12th January 2007, 16:58

Some cards have openGL 2.0
Would that be compatible?

Anyone here has that?

ronjurman · 12th January 2007, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

Do you think I am a mad Wabbit?

Nah, just a little upset maybe -).

rj

corzair · 16th January 2007, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

Some cards have openGL 2.0
Would that be compatible?

Anyone here has that?

yep anything ver1.4 and after would be fine

ver 2 would I persume last a lot longer

7th January 2007, 03:58	#1 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Turning open GL off Hi, i have put a screen capture of my graphic cards settings, I like to turn off the open Gl, but have no clue how to do it. If you can help it would be great. The problem is I get flickers when i rotate around my objects in Hex. Thank you for helping. Last edited by crazy wabbit; 13th April 2007 at 20:11.

7th January 2007, 08:27	#2 (permalink)
LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556	You are very funny wabbit You cannot turn openGL ON or OFF, it is nor a process running on your machine, it is rather huge set of hardware 2D rendering procedures called by the software itself. If Hexagon has no other way to output to it's window then calling openGL to do it, then you are stuck with it. Carrara, for example, has other way of doing this (software renderer) hence you can choose between those two... __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

8th January 2007, 04:05	#7 (permalink)
Plum NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 133	Hiya. The HUGE bonus to using OpenGL is portability. That's why Hex is on Windows & on Mac...and why it could, theoretically, be ported to Linux (crosses fingers in a vain hope... ). DirectX is good...but, from what I hear from my programmer friends, is that the 'interface' of working with DirectX is a pain in the ass. Anyway...I'd MUCH rather it stay OpenGL than get screwed up by DirectX. ...and don't even get me started on DX10 for Vista... (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.txt)... __________________ ^_^ "We've got a blind date with destiny...and it looks like she's ordered the lobster." --The Shoveler Paul L. Ming (Dual Opteron 246's, 2GB GDDR3, BFG 7800 GS OC 256MB, Windows 2000 & XP Pro 64-Bit, 21" CTR)

11th January 2007, 22:54	#10 (permalink)
corzair Cube Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, England, UK Posts: 81	I bought a cheap gfx card ATI 9550 one for £40 but trying Hex on my laptop was a disaster because its only OpenGL 1.3 and no newer drivers! But yeah, I feel your pain - Amapi, Carrara run - even though they need a better computer really then my poor ickle notebook oh and even Moi3d beta runs beautifully on it So why is Hex such a disaster I dunno but I gave up I just setup a machine modest one at that with an old SocketA motherboard and it runs all my apps fine and Hex runs better with it But HEX needs openGL 1.4 or greater I think and you cant turn it off it wont work then i reckon to sumise... check the info tab on that screen you showed to see what version your running of openGL then check for a newer driver for you gfx card - support may have been added. if all fails get a new gfx card that supports at least openGL1.4 __________________ "If the universe is like an ocean, then humans have only just set foot on the beach."

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7th January 2007, 16:13	#3 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Thank you so much, lonegunman, your the best. Is that a gun your holding? and I am a wabbit?

7th January 2007, 17:37	#4 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Hex should have been made to only work with Directx, if that was done, there would not be so many incompatibility.

7th January 2007, 23:36	#5 (permalink)
Evil Quail Vertex Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	So is there any way to stop the flickers? I'm use hex1.2 and getting them to.

8th January 2007, 00:01	#6 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	The only way I got out of it, is to turn your system from 32 bit to 16bit and restart your hex. Let me know if that works for you?

8th January 2007, 12:21	#8 (permalink)
are AKA RamPackWobble Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anglesey, North Wales, UK Posts: 216	Have you tried the settings in edit/preference editor/3d display/advanced ? Try the openGL optimization settings, refesh methods and the Local Redraw

12th January 2007, 16:58	#16 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Some cards have openGL 2.0 Would that be compatible? Anyone here has that?