The New Year for Amapi has begun - Polyloop

shoeach · 2nd January 2007, 11:08

A Happy New Year, Thomas and folks who love Polyloop.

I am convinced that this year is a BIG year for me. You might understand it as you love “Amapi” too.

shoeach

Windows XP HE sp2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
GeForce 7900GT
2GB RAM
AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon, trueSpace, Wings3D

Thomas · 2nd January 2007, 18:06

Thank you for your wishes, and Happy new year to you too!

Be sure that the first "official" screenshots of Amapi 8 will be here

shoeach · 3rd January 2007, 00:35

Hi,Thomas.

It is the first good news this year.

I think we can speculate Amapi’s renewal functions from its screenshot (e.g. from icons, etc.).
I am impatient to see it.

shoeach

Windows XP HE sp2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
nDIVIA GeForce 7900GT
2GB RAM
AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

corzair · 3rd January 2007, 20:05

yeah Happy and shiny new year to all and boy am i waiting for a screenshot too for Amapi8

good times ;-)

Wася · 3rd January 2007, 21:32

Happy New Year to all.

Personal thanks to Thomas.
If not you, I should not use Amapi because of its price. But... You know... This special promotion...
Don't tell it was not your decision, it was e-F, you are the part of the team, blah-blah. Somebody had to remind them about Poyloop members. It was you.

P.S. Don't tell me about screenshots

. I want Amapi 8 itself!!!

jones2000u · 4th January 2007, 02:37

eh? what? did I miss something? Is Amapi 8 being beta'd? Does anyone know what the release date will be? Screenshots? When? I love the French!

shoeach · 4th January 2007, 08:01

Hi, jones2000u.

I have interpreted that Thomas only mentioned that “First official screenshots of Amapi 8 will be Polyloop” and he has not announced regarding “Release of Amapi8’ BETA”. If Amapi8’ BETA is coming soon, I also want to know detailed information.

To fly away greatly, Amapi8 is now training enough.
We will wait a little more for her “BIG FLIGHT”.

I, personally, expect that the release of formal Amapi8 becomes about the middle of March (hopefully within February).

Cheers!

shoeach

Windows XP HE sp2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
nDIVIA GeForce 7900GT
2GB RAM
AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

gksl4 · 4th January 2007, 11:04

Hi all,

I get Amapi 7.52 since last promotion and I think it is a nice surprise working with...

. I prefer to wait longer for the new Amapi 8 to come out , but finally having a stable and, as much as possible, without many bugs and incomplete areas of development, piece of software. I hope that Hex2 was a good lesson. Thanks again Thomas for his care of Polyloop members and I am sure that we will be the first to found out Amapi's 8 capabilities.

Regards,

George

Thomas · 4th January 2007, 12:10

What do you mean by 'Hex2 was a good lesson'?

Butch · 4th January 2007, 13:21

Seems that he didnt like it

Thomas · 4th January 2007, 13:36

it's not a problem I like it or not, it's a problem that I want to be sure that I understand what he means.

Butch · 4th January 2007, 15:44

Not you Thomas, gksl4.

corzair · 4th January 2007, 19:24

I sorta in the same boat

I think that after seeing how stable Amapi7.52pro is that Hexagon2 stability issues stand out badly!
Although I got Hex cheaply am very glad that I got Amapi7.52 on special promo

if Amapi8 is as stable as 7.52 then I too know which I would rather upgrade!

Hex good as it is seam unfinished in comparison!

Wася · 4th January 2007, 20:11

* joining in a song *

I just can repeat what corzair said. I got Hex only for $30, so I had no bad feeling about it. But...

No offence, Thomas, Hex is a nice and a promising tool, but it does not fulfils its promises.
Yeah, Amapi has bugs, but at least it works in a predictable way. Just watch Hex 2.1 documentation! And looking at Amapi I see a package with a history.
I think it was a huge mistake to split modeling tool in two (Amapi and Hex), and it was a waste of former Eovia resources. Rush with Hex development and motherless child Amapi. I guess that's what gksl4 means.

I hope Amapi 8 will be cool and I wish Hex 3 will be cool also, because of this competition we, users, should only win. So good luck Eovia/DAZ team, and good luck e-frontier/Eovia team.

gksl4 · 4th January 2007, 22:53

Hi Thomas,

Sorry for my delayed answer. I bought promo Hex2 and left it for months without using it. Me too prefer to use the term unfinished areas for so calling bugs , many people complain that have.

I found Amapi 7.52 very stable and I prefer for the next version , a slower and extended development and testing period. I don't like to hear people (few fortunatelly) in other forums to accuse the development team of Hex and Amapi for half finished and buggy creations. Hex2 seems to me like an abandoned little child .

As mentioned before , probably separate development was the reason.

But I have very good thoughts about Amapi 8 and I believe that will be something exceptional in the designing area.

Regards,

George

shoeach · 5th January 2007, 08:01

Hi,

I am not only enjoying Amapi as one user, but also I love Amapi as if I am parent watching the growth of dear child.

So I will patiently wait for Amapi8 which grown up firmly.

shoeach

AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

Thomas · 5th January 2007, 09:10

As you can imagine, it's not easy for me to answer about Hexagon developpment, for various reaons, but as you can imagine, we were not able to do what we want at the end.
When DAZ won't exist anymore as e frontier in 50 years, I'll tell you the true story behind all of that ;) I'll write a book!

And Wacr: sorry, I'm rewritting all the Amapi 8 documentation :D

Wася · 6th January 2007, 13:20

Nobody blames you, Thomas. If at the end the whole company had to be sold (futhermore, had to be sold to two different companies), it usually is a retribution for a lot of decisions. Not developers decisions.
So the past is the past, but we are looking for the future. And we see Amapi has the future.

jones2000u · 8th January 2007, 02:45

You shouldn't drop hints like that, Thomas. There are enough conspiracy theories in the forum already!

Anyway, I won't look at Hexagon until I think I know what I am doing in Amapi, so I'm looking forward to v8. I hope the documentation goes well and if you want, I will help you proofread the bit about saved vertex point selections and UV mapping, together with the other bit about displacements. Also I can help with the bit about importing vector lines as templates and profiles etc etc. Oh, and don't forget the chapter on simple deforming - I didn't understand that too well in the v7 manual!

Thomas · 11th January 2007, 22:55

Jones: in fact, I rewrite all the Amapi Pro manual. For the proof reading, I think I have anough betatesters for that yet

2nd January 2007, 11:08	#1 (permalink)
shoeach Box modeling Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 219	The New Year for Amapi has begun A Happy New Year, Thomas and folks who love Polyloop. I am convinced that this year is a BIG year for me. You might understand it as you love “Amapi” too. shoeach Windows XP HE sp2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 GeForce 7900GT 2GB RAM AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon, trueSpace, Wings3D

2nd January 2007, 18:06	#2 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,319	Thank you for your wishes, and Happy new year to you too! Be sure that the first "official" screenshots of Amapi 8 will be here __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

3rd January 2007, 20:05	#4 (permalink)
corzair Cube Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, England, UK Posts: 81	yeah Happy and shiny new year to all and boy am i waiting for a screenshot too for Amapi8 good times ;-) __________________ "If the universe is like an ocean, then humans have only just set foot on the beach."

4th January 2007, 12:10	#9 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,319	What do you mean by 'Hex2 was a good lesson'? __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

4th January 2007, 13:36	#11 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,319	it's not a problem I like it or not, it's a problem that I want to be sure that I understand what he means. __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

3rd January 2007, 00:35	#3 (permalink)
shoeach Box modeling Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 219	Hi,Thomas. It is the first good news this year. I think we can speculate Amapi’s renewal functions from its screenshot (e.g. from icons, etc.). I am impatient to see it. shoeach Windows XP HE sp2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 nDIVIA GeForce 7900GT 2GB RAM AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

3rd January 2007, 21:32	#5 (permalink)
Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 400	Happy New Year to all. Personal thanks to Thomas. If not you, I should not use Amapi because of its price. But... You know... This special promotion... Don't tell it was not your decision, it was e-F, you are the part of the team, blah-blah. Somebody had to remind them about Poyloop members. It was you. P.S. Don't tell me about screenshots . I want Amapi 8 itself!!!

4th January 2007, 02:37	#6 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	eh? what? did I miss something? Is Amapi 8 being beta'd? Does anyone know what the release date will be? Screenshots? When? I love the French!

4th January 2007, 08:01	#7 (permalink)
shoeach Box modeling Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 219	Hi, jones2000u. I have interpreted that Thomas only mentioned that “First official screenshots of Amapi 8 will be Polyloop” and he has not announced regarding “Release of Amapi8’ BETA”. If Amapi8’ BETA is coming soon, I also want to know detailed information. To fly away greatly, Amapi8 is now training enough. We will wait a little more for her “BIG FLIGHT”. I, personally, expect that the release of formal Amapi8 becomes about the middle of March (hopefully within February). Cheers! shoeach Windows XP HE sp2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 nDIVIA GeForce 7900GT 2GB RAM AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

4th January 2007, 11:04	#8 (permalink)
gksl4 Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25	Hi all, I get Amapi 7.52 since last promotion and I think it is a nice surprise working with... . I prefer to wait longer for the new Amapi 8 to come out , but finally having a stable and, as much as possible, without many bugs and incomplete areas of development, piece of software. I hope that Hex2 was a good lesson. Thanks again Thomas for his care of Polyloop members and I am sure that we will be the first to found out Amapi's 8 capabilities. Regards, George

4th January 2007, 13:21	#10 (permalink)
Butch Extrusion Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 171	Seems that he didnt like it

4th January 2007, 15:44	#12 (permalink)
Butch Extrusion Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 171	Not you Thomas, gksl4.

4th January 2007, 19:24	#13 (permalink)
corzair Cube Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, England, UK Posts: 81	I sorta in the same boat I think that after seeing how stable Amapi7.52pro is that Hexagon2 stability issues stand out badly! Although I got Hex cheaply am very glad that I got Amapi7.52 on special promo if Amapi8 is as stable as 7.52 then I too know which I would rather upgrade! Hex good as it is seam unfinished in comparison! __________________ "If the universe is like an ocean, then humans have only just set foot on the beach."

4th January 2007, 20:11	#14 (permalink)
Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 400	* joining in a song * I just can repeat what corzair said. I got Hex only for $30, so I had no bad feeling about it. But... No offence, Thomas, Hex is a nice and a promising tool, but it does not fulfils its promises. Yeah, Amapi has bugs, but at least it works in a predictable way. Just watch Hex 2.1 documentation! And looking at Amapi I see a package with a history. I think it was a huge mistake to split modeling tool in two (Amapi and Hex), and it was a waste of former Eovia resources. Rush with Hex development and motherless child Amapi. I guess that's what gksl4 means. I hope Amapi 8 will be cool and I wish Hex 3 will be cool also, because of this competition we, users, should only win. So good luck Eovia/DAZ team, and good luck e-frontier/Eovia team. Last edited by Wася; 4th January 2007 at 23:41.

4th January 2007, 22:53	#15 (permalink)
gksl4 Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25	Hi Thomas, Sorry for my delayed answer. I bought promo Hex2 and left it for months without using it. Me too prefer to use the term unfinished areas for so calling bugs , many people complain that have. I found Amapi 7.52 very stable and I prefer for the next version , a slower and extended development and testing period. I don't like to hear people (few fortunatelly) in other forums to accuse the development team of Hex and Amapi for half finished and buggy creations. Hex2 seems to me like an abandoned little child . As mentioned before , probably separate development was the reason. But I have very good thoughts about Amapi 8 and I believe that will be something exceptional in the designing area. Regards, George

5th January 2007, 08:01	#16 (permalink)
shoeach Box modeling Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 219	Hi, I am not only enjoying Amapi as one user, but also I love Amapi as if I am parent watching the growth of dear child. So I will patiently wait for Amapi8 which grown up firmly. shoeach AmapiPro7.52, Hexagon2.1, trueSpace, Wings3D

5th January 2007, 09:10	#17 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,319	As you can imagine, it's not easy for me to answer about Hexagon developpment, for various reaons, but as you can imagine, we were not able to do what we want at the end. When DAZ won't exist anymore as e frontier in 50 years, I'll tell you the true story behind all of that ;) I'll write a book! And Wacr: sorry, I'm rewritting all the Amapi 8 documentation :D __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

6th January 2007, 13:20	#18 (permalink)
Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 400	Nobody blames you, Thomas. If at the end the whole company had to be sold (futhermore, had to be sold to two different companies), it usually is a retribution for a lot of decisions. Not developers decisions. So the past is the past, but we are looking for the future. And we see Amapi has the future.

8th January 2007, 02:45	#19 (permalink)
jones2000u NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 134	You shouldn't drop hints like that, Thomas. There are enough conspiracy theories in the forum already! Anyway, I won't look at Hexagon until I think I know what I am doing in Amapi, so I'm looking forward to v8. I hope the documentation goes well and if you want, I will help you proofread the bit about saved vertex point selections and UV mapping, together with the other bit about displacements. Also I can help with the bit about importing vector lines as templates and profiles etc etc. Oh, and don't forget the chapter on simple deforming - I didn't understand that too well in the v7 manual!

11th January 2007, 22:55	#20 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,319	Jones: in fact, I rewrite all the Amapi Pro manual. For the proof reading, I think I have anough betatesters for that yet __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

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