Bob is leaving DAZ - Polyloop

steama · 15th September 2006, 23:37

I got this from DAZ Carrara

Quote:

Originally Posted by RingoM

Hi,
I received an email from Dan Farr regarding this matter and I would like to share this with the community.
Email from Dan Farr regarding Bob Stockwell

Quote:

Hi Ringo,
I wanted to send you a note to let you know that we have decided to
redeploy Bob Stockwell's position as the V.P. of Sales and Marketing
back to the Utah office. Bob was unable to relocate here to the Utah
office due to his family commitments. We admire him for keeping the
proper priorities. This decision was necessary for the overall health
of DAZ as that Bob's team was the largest in the company and all but
one person on his team are located in Utah. The overhead of having
our head of marketing and sales not located in the main office was
too great for a smaller company like ours. It was a very difficult
decision for us and one that we did not make lightly. Bob was a great
leader for DAZ and has helped tremendously in the merging of two
different company's. We will miss him and hope that he will find even
greater success with his new opportunities.

Thanks,
Dan Farr

Personally I am not to worried about this change as Bob was an administrator and not a developer or programmer. I guess we will have to see if this has any effect on DAZ or Cararra and Hexagon.

Good luck to Bob and his future endeavors.

Stan Johnson

Piem · 16th September 2006, 00:12

Interresting news

Does that means that Charles Brissard is working now in Utah ?

I think that the Californian sun is too hard to leave

Thomas · 16th September 2006, 10:50

...
(Thomas who is seeing the news from the Apple Expo ;))

medeamajic · 16th September 2006, 10:55

I thought the whole marketing and merging of Eovia and Daz was done very poor.

When is the Carrara website going to be ready?

Khris · 16th September 2006, 17:37

That would explain why Bob's blog on ArtZone is closed since a few days.

jbshorty · 16th September 2006, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khris

That would explain why Bob's blog on ArtZone is closed since a few days.

i'm gonna miss Bob's Blog, it was so informative

!!!

BStockwell · 20th September 2006, 18:11

Thanks JB.

jbshorty · 20th September 2006, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStockwell

Thanks JB.

Sorry if my comment came off as extremely sarcastic Bob. I have nothing against you personally of course, i just don't recall seeing any posts on that blog beyond the introduction of it. I know the blog was well intentioned. But obviously there were more important issues you were dealing with on a daily basis. Good luck to you, wherever your path leads...

Thomas · 20th September 2006, 18:44

Just a question: who will handle the communication with the users now?
Good luck to you Bob

steama · 20th September 2006, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas

Just a question: who will handle the communication with the users now?
Good luck to you Bob

What communication? DAZ does not seem to be interrested in communication with users. I can't see that changing.

Stan

Couerl · 20th September 2006, 23:43

I'm not down on Daz for not blogging or communicating much, it's their company and they can run it how they choose. I'll do as I've always done and let the next upgrade tell me if what they are doing is right or not. I have always been happy with the Eovia dev cycle and new features and improvements and of-course Bob's departure is going to impact that... It's not all about coding and there has to be a good mix of comraderie and good spirits to develop good software both inside the company and the community.

As Charles stated in the last chat, do you want us writing blogs or making software? The answer to that is obvious and this seemingly overwhelming need to be communicated to just doesn't wash. That said, Bob was always in the trenches taking issues head on in Yahoo groups and elsewhere and I admire him for doing that. I admire him even more for keeping his priorities straight and placing his family above his immediate career. That takes a lot of guts for any man in my opinion.

Flipside, I can see why Daz wouldn't want their number 2 man working remotely. It's like a long distance love affair, they just never work out and pretty soon you're banging the maid or she's off with some other local hero...

Sometimes both sides can make the right decision and still nobody wins... I hope we start seeing some wins again here pretty soon. It can't be all Charles and Arnaud and Pierre alone, they need help too and if that just comes in the form of support and patience, then so be it.

Steven

Narration · 21st September 2006, 00:02

I'm glad someone mentioned Charles. It seems he's the person with the big burden here - perhaps feeling 'no good deed goes unpunished'.

If I understand things, he led the Carrara team to a quite successful product - and then inherits responsibility the other team at Eovia couldn't finish.

I hope Daz is sensible to buy him all the consultants and help that the Hex project needs. And that they realize how much it needs this.

Kind regards,
Clive

steama · 21st September 2006, 00:45

It does not really matter what the DAZ communication policy is if the software updates are up to the mark with the competition (within a reasonable time frame). I hope it all goes well with DAZ.

Good luck to DAZ,
Stan

Couerl · 21st September 2006, 01:11

I actually think communication and some level of transparancy is important, I didn't mean to infer otherwise, but that's why I think Bob's leaving is a bad thing in the long run.. He is a good spokesman. That said, blogs and such are a bit over the top too...

Thomas · 21st September 2006, 15:10

I don't agree about the Charles quote for the blog. Writting a post on a blog won't take more than 5 minutes.

It never took us a long time to post on the Hexagon Dev' Blog at all... And users where happy to see the progress and all kind of various stuff.

Narration · 21st September 2006, 16:08

Thomas, I agree - and I called him (Charles) on it gently on the chat.

I was considering at the time the same as I did here - that he is the one caught with responsibility for other people's actions and situations.

Of course it would not take much time to write, if you are ready to say something.

Let's hope that while Bob finds his next good place to be, that Daz finally agrees to understand what they have, and one way or another, make it healthy.

Then they can feel a freedom to talk too. Then we might be more interested in what they apparently would like to talk about, 'making movies'.

Kind regards,
Narration

wawadave · 21st September 2006, 20:56

take care Bob!

16th September 2006, 00:12	#2 (permalink)
Piem Booh! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rennes/fr Posts: 6,643	Interresting news Does that means that Charles Brissard is working now in Utah ? I think that the Californian sun is too hard to leave __________________ - Sheik Yerbouti - Let love the Noise technimesh.com

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Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,317	Just a question: who will handle the communication with the users now? Good luck to you Bob __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

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Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,317	I don't agree about the Charles quote for the blog. Writting a post on a blog won't take more than 5 minutes. It never took us a long time to post on the Hexagon Dev' Blog at all... And users where happy to see the progress and all kind of various stuff. __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

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16th September 2006, 10:55	#4 (permalink)
medeamajic Now, I learn animation Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,028	I thought the whole marketing and merging of Eovia and Daz was done very poor. When is the Carrara website going to be ready?

16th September 2006, 17:37	#5 (permalink)
Khris Boolean Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 90	That would explain why Bob's blog on ArtZone is closed since a few days.

20th September 2006, 18:11	#7 (permalink)
BStockwell Vertex Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	Thanks JB.

20th September 2006, 23:43	#11 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,301	I'm not down on Daz for not blogging or communicating much, it's their company and they can run it how they choose. I'll do as I've always done and let the next upgrade tell me if what they are doing is right or not. I have always been happy with the Eovia dev cycle and new features and improvements and of-course Bob's departure is going to impact that... It's not all about coding and there has to be a good mix of comraderie and good spirits to develop good software both inside the company and the community. As Charles stated in the last chat, do you want us writing blogs or making software? The answer to that is obvious and this seemingly overwhelming need to be communicated to just doesn't wash. That said, Bob was always in the trenches taking issues head on in Yahoo groups and elsewhere and I admire him for doing that. I admire him even more for keeping his priorities straight and placing his family above his immediate career. That takes a lot of guts for any man in my opinion. Flipside, I can see why Daz wouldn't want their number 2 man working remotely. It's like a long distance love affair, they just never work out and pretty soon you're banging the maid or she's off with some other local hero... Sometimes both sides can make the right decision and still nobody wins... I hope we start seeing some wins again here pretty soon. It can't be all Charles and Arnaud and Pierre alone, they need help too and if that just comes in the form of support and patience, then so be it. Steven

21st September 2006, 00:02	#12 (permalink)
Narration citoyen Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: north of alps Posts: 226	I'm glad someone mentioned Charles. It seems he's the person with the big burden here - perhaps feeling 'no good deed goes unpunished'. If I understand things, he led the Carrara team to a quite successful product - and then inherits responsibility the other team at Eovia couldn't finish. I hope Daz is sensible to buy him all the consultants and help that the Hex project needs. And that they realize how much it needs this. Kind regards, Clive

21st September 2006, 00:45	#13 (permalink)
steama Boulet Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 452	It does not really matter what the DAZ communication policy is if the software updates are up to the mark with the competition (within a reasonable time frame). I hope it all goes well with DAZ. Good luck to DAZ, Stan

21st September 2006, 01:11	#14 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,301	I actually think communication and some level of transparancy is important, I didn't mean to infer otherwise, but that's why I think Bob's leaving is a bad thing in the long run.. He is a good spokesman. That said, blogs and such are a bit over the top too...

21st September 2006, 16:08	#16 (permalink)
Narration citoyen Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: north of alps Posts: 226	Thomas, I agree - and I called him (Charles) on it gently on the chat. I was considering at the time the same as I did here - that he is the one caught with responsibility for other people's actions and situations. Of course it would not take much time to write, if you are ready to say something. Let's hope that while Bob finds his next good place to be, that Daz finally agrees to understand what they have, and one way or another, make it healthy. Then they can feel a freedom to talk too. Then we might be more interested in what they apparently would like to talk about, 'making movies'. Kind regards, Narration

21st September 2006, 20:56	#17 (permalink)
wawadave Vertex Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2	take care Bob!