carrara+book for sale...both new. - Polyloop

zkev · 27th August 2005, 00:23

carrara 3 (new, in shrink wrap) and new C3 handbook
for sale on ebay...just go look, I wont put any links
here. You cant miss it, practically giving it away. If you
don't need it tell a friend,

thanks, Kevin

27th August 2005, 22:31

Hi, I see a few of the Carrara 3s there at very low prices.
I also found a few Poser 5 and POser6 on sale at eBay funny thing about that is that e-Frontiers states that they DO NOT allow anyone to sell Poser at any of the auctions sites like eBay. They say that according to their EULA they can stop the user from sell it at auctions site. BUT I don't see anyone removing the Poser boxes that are on sale at eBay.

Here is what e-frontier.com says :

"n order to satisfy this commitment to our community, we do not allow our product to be sold on Ebay or other auction sites, which, per our licensing agreements, is within our right. We proactively monitor online auctions and have auction companies remove any listing that violates our licensing agreements. "

very interesting to know I would say.

Ringo

zkev · 27th August 2005, 22:48

never crossed my mind that eovia would not allow
its software on ebay...wouldnt have done it if they
didn't. Anyway...to late its sold.

if they DONT allow that, then they better check out
ebay because there are tons of C3's on sale there.

zkev

Thomas · 28th August 2005, 00:12

Eovia allow it ;p

28th August 2005, 00:55

Hi, Kevin

Pal, I didn't say Eovia didn't allow it.

I was point out that e-frontier/CuriousLabs don't allow the sale of Poser via ebay.
Just happens that I was reading the EULA for Poser about 2 days ago. Frankly the Poser EULA is not very user friendly.
The EULA for Poser 5 was the main issue why DAZ3D did not support Poser5. Dan Farr went as far as telling Steve Cooper/ex CEO of CuriousLabs that unless they change the EULA of Poser 5 DAZ would not be supporting Poser 5 and would only support Poser 4.
Long story and you can find Dans and Cooper post at Renderosity and PoserPros.

Some it is a good idea to read those EULA. :-)

Nichod · 28th August 2005, 12:53

Quote:

I was point out that e-frontier/CuriousLabs don't allow the sale of Poser via ebay. Just happens that I was reading the EULA for Poser about 2 days ago. Frankly the Poser EULA is not very user friendly.
The EULA for Poser 5 was the main issue why DAZ3D did not support Poser5. Dan Farr went as far as telling Steve Cooper/ex CEO of CuriousLabs that unless they change the EULA of Poser 5 DAZ would not be supporting Poser 5 and would only support Poser 4. Long story and you can find Dans and Cooper post at Renderosity and PoserPros.

Can't sell it on ebay? Hrm. Thats lame. We own it, we should be able to sell our copy however we want.

AWBenson · 30th August 2005, 15:52

Adobe's CS line-up has, also, limits iimposed by the software and it's license.

For example, the PhotoShop can only be installed (with online registration, otherwise no-work after 30 days) on two machines. Period. You have to go online with one of the installed computers and "deactivite" that copy of PhotoShop before you uninstall it and re-install it on a different machines. Hopefully you don't uninstall PS without deactiviting it (or suffer from a major computer crash) because you'll not be able to reinstall it elsewhere because it's still registered to the prior machine.

AWBenson

CnoEvil · 20th November 2005, 21:48

Tying software to a particular machine is a bad idea that is coming in vogue with a number of software companies. Software companies are increasingly trying to limit and impose restrictions on what you can and can not do with the software that you pay your hard earned money for the right to use, consequently; these for profit software companies are the major driving force behind the open source movement. They themselves are throwing gasoline on the fire that threatens them. People are chaffed by shelling out their hard earned bucks only to find that they are tied to so many restrictions on how they can use what they just payed for. For profit companies need to reevaluate this mentality and recognize that it just may be hurting them more than it is helping them.

I'm not against these guys making a profit and protecting their intellectual properties, but there are eventual boundries that will force users to weigh other options - many are weighing them now and throwing all or most commercial software off of their desktops and the ones they are willing to pay for have extremely liberal usage policies. The software industry is increasingly becoming more and more a service/support business model and less of a product oriented business model. Time for the big guns in the industry to get the clue.

27th August 2005, 00:23	#1 (permalink)
zkev Vertex Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2	carrara+book for sale...both new. carrara 3 (new, in shrink wrap) and new C3 handbook for sale on ebay...just go look, I wont put any links here. You cant miss it, practically giving it away. If you don't need it tell a friend, thanks, Kevin

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27th August 2005, 22:31	#2 (permalink)
Ringo Monfort Guest Posts: n/a	Hi, I see a few of the Carrara 3s there at very low prices. I also found a few Poser 5 and POser6 on sale at eBay funny thing about that is that e-Frontiers states that they DO NOT allow anyone to sell Poser at any of the auctions sites like eBay. They say that according to their EULA they can stop the user from sell it at auctions site. BUT I don't see anyone removing the Poser boxes that are on sale at eBay. Here is what e-frontier.com says : "n order to satisfy this commitment to our community, we do not allow our product to be sold on Ebay or other auction sites, which, per our licensing agreements, is within our right. We proactively monitor online auctions and have auction companies remove any listing that violates our licensing agreements. " very interesting to know I would say. Ringo

27th August 2005, 22:48	#3 (permalink)
zkev Vertex Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2	never crossed my mind that eovia would not allow its software on ebay...wouldnt have done it if they didn't. Anyway...to late its sold. if they DONT allow that, then they better check out ebay because there are tons of C3's on sale there. zkev

28th August 2005, 00:55	#5 (permalink)
Ringo Monfort Guest Posts: n/a	Hi, Kevin Pal, I didn't say Eovia didn't allow it. I was point out that e-frontier/CuriousLabs don't allow the sale of Poser via ebay. Just happens that I was reading the EULA for Poser about 2 days ago. Frankly the Poser EULA is not very user friendly. The EULA for Poser 5 was the main issue why DAZ3D did not support Poser5. Dan Farr went as far as telling Steve Cooper/ex CEO of CuriousLabs that unless they change the EULA of Poser 5 DAZ would not be supporting Poser 5 and would only support Poser 4. Long story and you can find Dans and Cooper post at Renderosity and PoserPros. Some it is a good idea to read those EULA. :-)

30th August 2005, 15:52	#7 (permalink)
AWBenson Box modeling Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 292	Adobe's CS line-up has, also, limits iimposed by the software and it's license. For example, the PhotoShop can only be installed (with online registration, otherwise no-work after 30 days) on two machines. Period. You have to go online with one of the installed computers and "deactivite" that copy of PhotoShop before you uninstall it and re-install it on a different machines. Hopefully you don't uninstall PS without deactiviting it (or suffer from a major computer crash) because you'll not be able to reinstall it elsewhere because it's still registered to the prior machine. AWBenson

20th November 2005, 21:48	#8 (permalink)
CnoEvil Vertex Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 7	Tying software to a particular machine is a bad idea that is coming in vogue with a number of software companies. Software companies are increasingly trying to limit and impose restrictions on what you can and can not do with the software that you pay your hard earned money for the right to use, consequently; these for profit software companies are the major driving force behind the open source movement. They themselves are throwing gasoline on the fire that threatens them. People are chaffed by shelling out their hard earned bucks only to find that they are tied to so many restrictions on how they can use what they just payed for. For profit companies need to reevaluate this mentality and recognize that it just may be hurting them more than it is helping them. I'm not against these guys making a profit and protecting their intellectual properties, but there are eventual boundries that will force users to weigh other options - many are weighing them now and throwing all or most commercial software off of their desktops and the ones they are willing to pay for have extremely liberal usage policies. The software industry is increasingly becoming more and more a service/support business model and less of a product oriented business model. Time for the big guns in the industry to get the clue.