English participation lost.

[vkirchner]

You'll always be a friend Shorty

Simple enough?

[Wesgraphics]

Originally Posted by medeamajic

Sounds good. I hope we will get more True Space, Lightwave and maybe even a few Hash Animation Master users. It will be fun to see what the competition has to offer with out having to read 5 or 6 different forums.

I use trueSpace and Animation Master occasionally. It's surprising how advanced AM was years ago and some larger programs are just now catching up to its feature set.

[jbshorty]

Originally Posted by vkirchner

You'll always be a friend Shorty

Simple enough?

Yep, now i got it...

[bwtr]

Thomas!
The visuals (images) seem to have gone from your Carrara tutes---the rigging one! at least--I never saved to my files

Help!----please

[Thomas]

Well, going back to the topic, what can we do to avoid this "lost of participation"?

For your information, the stats are still the same (the only drop I had are around the end of Eovia)

[-ash-]

Hi everyone. Been a long time since I last posted here

Well, I'm probably one of those who's participation has been lost for a while now. My job has just completely taken over this year. In fact, I've not done any art at all since last Christmas

However, I've got some holiday's coming up and I'm hoping to get something done and uploaded here. I'd also hate to see the English speaking side of Polyloop fade away so I'm determined to post more more from now on.

[RedSquare]

I'm still around as well, just that I disappeared for a bit so that I could concentrate on UV mapping and to try and get my head around Texturing where and how I wanted it. All academic now since I killed my main 'puter, so like Nate I'm peering at hardware combinations and feeling fed up. I think I killed my hard drives as well, not sure just yet, but if so bang goes all my files. That will teach me not to put in a new cheapish 650 wat PSU.

[Wim Scheenen]

Well, my posting frequency has always been low, and non-regular. My job keeps me busy most of the times, in fact no personal projects have come out of my hands for the past year. But, I still read the forums regularly, always fun to read and learn and the atmosphere here is to my liking . Wim

[smudgee]

i prefered it as it was, less clickiing, easier to have a quick visit, less RSI

[Nate Owens]

I've said my piece here, that I like PolyLoop and the generous, friendly bunch that inhabit the place...

I will make an observation:

• Forums that are about a specific application (ZBrush Central, for instance) may have a section for other software.
• Forums that are neutral and have no affiliation to a software seem to have sections for different software - like Hexagon, Carrara, etc.

That isn't to say that PolyLoop must do that, but when I go to those Forums it is pretty easy to navigate to the section of my interest.

I will probably get used to this arrangement, but for now it is a bit confusing.
Maybe a new visitor would not notice that... you think?

[Tartiflette]

I think that like all changes this one will take time to assimilate.

But from another point of vue, it can be a benefit to browse a forum where things aren't too segmented.
For example it can help someone to post things without the fear he will be alone on the board, as those feelings can happen when you see that your software of choice have 2 thread in a year...

Future will tell, but i think that after a necessary period of adaptation, it'll be good for PolyLoop.


Cheers,
Laurent aka Tartiflette

[Nate Owens]

Originally Posted by Tartiflette

....For example it can help someone to post things without the fear he will be alone on the board, as those feelings can happen when you see that your software of choice have 2 thread in a year... ...

True enough, but if you discover that up front, you can skeedaddle on down the internet to another place that has active threads catering to your preference... instead of posting to a blank wall...

[Hugo]

I just want to add, that every softwares use the same "technical background". Most of the time the process to achieve a goal is similar or really close from one package to another.
Their is just some differences in the name of somes functions, or features.

I think it's better to discuss about the process, than having basic "support" thread. Seriously a lot of thread here exist because people don't even read the manual.

So let's help them on how they can do what they want to do, and not telling her to click here, and here and here.

That's my opinion. ;-)

[-ash-]

Originally Posted by Hugo

I just want to add, that every softwares use the same "technical background". Most of the time the process to achieve a goal is similar or really close from one package to another.
Their is just some differences in the name of somes functions, or features.

I think it's better to discuss about the process, than having basic "support" thread. Seriously a lot of thread here exist because people don't even read the manual.

So let's help them on how they can do what they want to do, and not telling her to click here, and here and here.

That's my opinion. ;-)

I'm with Hugo here. If I want help on specific software functions, like how to select a loop or something, then I'll go to the software support forums. So, for example, for Silo, I'll head on over to silo3d.com, etc.

What I like about polyloop is the feedback and discussion. Seeing other people's work and getting feedback on my own efforts. That's not to say that I won't help others with software that I know, but I would prefer it not to be the main aim of polyloop.

My opinion too

[medeamajic]

Nate Owens,

I agree that it is good to have seperate forums for LightWave, True Space, Maya, Carrara, Modo etc. as long as there is enough participation. Polyloop does not have enough participation to warrant sub threads. It may one day.

[Nate Owens]

Originally Posted by medeamajic

Nate Owens,

I agree that it is good to have seperate forums for LightWave, True Space, Maya, Carrara, Modo etc. as long as there is enough participation. Polyloop does not have enough participation to warrant sub threads. It may one day.

I would think the solution to that would be to only have subthreads (Carrara, Hexagon, etc.) that do have the participation, and another for miscellaneous - which is the way I think it was. When the participation for a specific subject in the miscellaneous section warrants its own subthread that can be added. I thought the Hexagon and Carrara threads were pretty active, but I don't keep the records like Thomas & Co. do... they should know.

Either way, it is no big thing at all. I'm sure Thomas will do his thing and deliver a superior and better PolyLoop... this is all just "what-if" stuff.

[medeamajic]

As of now Carrara and Hexagon do not even have enough participation to warrant a sub forum. I think we all agree if a certain software get 15-20 new post a day it might be wise to make a sub forum.

[laughingnome]

Originally Posted by medeamajic

As of now Carrara and Hexagon do not even have enough participation to warrant a sub forum.

maybe we should remove those then??


stu

[Nate Owens]

Is there going to be a poll on this?
Seems that this is a private forum and can be directed and managed any way that suits the owner (as it should be).

I feel that there is bad blood and bad feelings against DAZ and some other software due to the history and treatment of certain people by companies controling the products. That is quite understandable, but unfortunate that it would affect the forum.

Perhaps in the beginning there may have been a sense of sponsorship of some software, but I don't think anyone ever considered that seriously.

Easy to say, hard to do, but it would be better for the users if the forum were unbiased (is it really) and did not have that cloud hanging over it.

Are the stats for Carrara users and Hexagon users really that much different than they were before - is it possible that the change was initiated by the issues that perhaps caused users to move away.

For myself, I had found this forum to be a better place for good tutorials and great talent using various software.

As for the French side... I just wish I could read and write French - I would be over there pestering them and soaking in the talent and info on that side too... I have no bias, only my ignorance is creating a barrier.

Of course... none of this is my business... maybe some of Stu's pain medicine would help.

[-ash-]

Are we not getting a bit off-topic?

I thought this thread was about English participation being lost. Is this really the case and if so why?

If it is, then the only way for that to change is for English speakers to post more. My excuse is my job, but it shouldn't have stopped me posting, even if I had no work to show. I'm not going to let that happen again because I don't want to lose the English speaking side of this community.

My tuppence worth.