Photoshop 3D Paint - Polyloop

bwtr · 4th March 2007, 10:55

PhotoshpCS3 Standard, (the beta is fantastic),is apparently to be joined within weeks by a "special/pro" version hinted at containing 3D painting capability.

Anything more about this on the grapevine?

transient · 4th March 2007, 13:47

Rumors

Ability to open, rotate and place 3D objects in their native file formats such as Maya, 3DMAX and Acrobat as a smart object. Ability to edit textures in Photoshop and reapply to the 3D model.

This would be great. Yet another killer app on the horizon, maybe. 2007 is looking good so far.

jbshorty · 4th March 2007, 15:23

i only wonder why it took them so long to finally do it !

E-Z · 15th April 2007, 01:28

http://www.electriciris.com

bwtr · 15th April 2007, 03:07

The electriciris app is a bit premature. Wait until the end of the month when, hopefully,a lot of the bugs will have been fixed.

For those who will have PhotoshopCS3Extended and the Acrobat8 3D version, most 3d painting will be possible.

Ascania · 15th April 2007, 05:52

There's also Object Painter. A bit more affordable.

And from what I've seen in demo videos of CS3, the texture painting seems to lack real-time feedback. You have to savethe texture before themodel gets updated.

bwtr · 15th April 2007, 06:41

Yes, and fairly similar apps.

BUT! it is strange that a couple of simple, free apps can simply paint on the 3D object without having to have uv maps!--and they can be simple to use unlike either of these current new ones.

jbshorty · 15th April 2007, 07:23

I downloaded Enzo a few weeks ago (Electric Iris) because it claims to paint directly on Rhino Nurbs models (although i don't see how it can be appllied back to the nurbs object in Rhino as it doesn't have nurbs pelt-mapping). But it crashes when i try to open the 3DM file. I know there is a way to fix it, so i will have to come back to play with it when i have time...

shorty

bwtr · 15th April 2007, 08:07

shorty. They have promised version 1,01 for the end of the month.

crazy wabbit · 15th April 2007, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwtr

Yes, and fairly similar apps.

BUT! it is strange that a couple of simple, free apps can simply paint on the 3D object without having to have uv maps!--and they can be simple to use unlike either of these current new ones.

Can you provide the link to these free programs?

solt · 16th April 2007, 00:33

corel photopaint can open 3d object - rotate etc..- since many years .
but it only support the 3DMF format...

crazy wabbit · 16th April 2007, 01:02

The way to go is soon to be auto uvmapping, you do not even need to unwrap. Just start to paint. I bet you this will happen soon. Look at modo they have it all figured out for the user.

bwtr · 16th April 2007, 03:32

Behzad.
The name of the first one I knew I will remember and advise.(Mentioned frequently on this site)--Very simple direct paint on 3D--at the tip of my tongue!
Smooth Teddy
Sharp Construct
Blender
CB ModelPro
Google SketchUp
TopoGun
Object Painter
Archipelis

All of those have working features , some with 3D paint stuff, that many of the other apps seem to find difficult to provide or at least make hard work of.

crazy wabbit · 16th April 2007, 03:42

Thank you bwtr
I will look into them. Thanks

bwtr · 16th April 2007, 03:52

And the one I forgot the name--look at first--"Tattoo".

And also blacksmith3d

crazy wabbit · 16th April 2007, 04:01

wow thanks, which one is your favorite?

bwtr · 16th April 2007, 05:10

All have some "difficulties"!!!!

IF I could master the way Blender works I would probably need no other app perhaps than Photoshop?

If all the good, easy, workings could be included into Carrara OH JOY!

jbshorty · 16th April 2007, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by behzad

The way to go is soon to be auto uvmapping, you do not even need to unwrap. Just start to paint. I bet you this will happen soon. Look at modo they have it all figured out for the user.

Yup, Modo does automatic UV mapping for many types of object (similar to Nurbs mapping. It's not ideal for all cases, but at least it gives you a good start so you only have to tweak a little bit... The main problem with 2D mapping for 3d objects is that you must have distortions and gaps. I've read journals about data being stored in 3D by using holograms. I think this is the real future of mapping objects. If we could have a map in 3D space, there would be no need for unwrapping, no distortions, no gaps. Just model and texture...

shorty

bwtr · 18th April 2007, 02:30

Todays ZAM3D newsletter and the "White Paper" of the Blend Integration with the Microsoft Expression App makes interesting reading.

E-Z · 6th June 2007, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwtr

PhotoshpCS3 Standard, (the beta is fantastic),is apparently to be joined within weeks by a "special/pro" version hinted at containing 3D painting capability.

Anything more about this on the grapevine?

its here http://www.adobe.com/products/photos...toshopextended
the version is called
Photoshop CS3 Extended

it can import 3D Files

4th March 2007, 10:55	#1 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	Photoshop 3D Paint PhotoshpCS3 Standard, (the beta is fantastic),is apparently to be joined within weeks by a "special/pro" version hinted at containing 3D painting capability. Anything more about this on the grapevine?

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solt Nomade 3Deiste Join Date: May 2004 Location: Firminy_France Posts: 2,634 Images: 9	corel photopaint can open 3d object - rotate etc..- since many years . but it only support the 3DMF format... __________________ " It's better to burn out than it is to rust " " Mieux vaut brûler que rouiller " ------------------------------- Mes images

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4th March 2007, 13:47	#2 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 164	Rumors Ability to open, rotate and place 3D objects in their native file formats such as Maya, 3DMAX and Acrobat as a smart object. Ability to edit textures in Photoshop and reapply to the 3D model. This would be great. Yet another killer app on the horizon, maybe. 2007 is looking good so far.

4th March 2007, 15:23	#3 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,319 Images: 1	i only wonder why it took them so long to finally do it !

15th April 2007, 01:28	#4 (permalink)
E-Z Boulet Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 366	http://www.electriciris.com

15th April 2007, 03:07	#5 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	The electriciris app is a bit premature. Wait until the end of the month when, hopefully,a lot of the bugs will have been fixed. For those who will have PhotoshopCS3Extended and the Acrobat8 3D version, most 3d painting will be possible.

15th April 2007, 05:52	#6 (permalink)
Ascania Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 16	There's also Object Painter. A bit more affordable. And from what I've seen in demo videos of CS3, the texture painting seems to lack real-time feedback. You have to savethe texture before themodel gets updated.

15th April 2007, 06:41	#7 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	Yes, and fairly similar apps. BUT! it is strange that a couple of simple, free apps can simply paint on the 3D object without having to have uv maps!--and they can be simple to use unlike either of these current new ones.

15th April 2007, 07:23	#8 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,319 Images: 1	I downloaded Enzo a few weeks ago (Electric Iris) because it claims to paint directly on Rhino Nurbs models (although i don't see how it can be appllied back to the nurbs object in Rhino as it doesn't have nurbs pelt-mapping). But it crashes when i try to open the 3DM file. I know there is a way to fix it, so i will have to come back to play with it when i have time... shorty

15th April 2007, 08:07	#9 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	shorty. They have promised version 1,01 for the end of the month.

16th April 2007, 01:02	#12 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,369	The way to go is soon to be auto uvmapping, you do not even need to unwrap. Just start to paint. I bet you this will happen soon. Look at modo they have it all figured out for the user.

16th April 2007, 03:32	#13 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	Behzad. The name of the first one I knew I will remember and advise.(Mentioned frequently on this site)--Very simple direct paint on 3D--at the tip of my tongue! Smooth Teddy Sharp Construct Blender CB ModelPro Google SketchUp TopoGun Object Painter Archipelis All of those have working features , some with 3D paint stuff, that many of the other apps seem to find difficult to provide or at least make hard work of.

16th April 2007, 03:42	#14 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,369	Thank you bwtr I will look into them. Thanks

16th April 2007, 03:52	#15 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	And the one I forgot the name--look at first--"Tattoo". And also blacksmith3d

16th April 2007, 05:10	#17 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	All have some "difficulties"!!!! IF I could master the way Blender works I would probably need no other app perhaps than Photoshop? If all the good, easy, workings could be included into Carrara OH JOY!

18th April 2007, 02:30	#19 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	Todays ZAM3D newsletter and the "White Paper" of the Blend Integration with the Microsoft Expression App makes interesting reading.