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Old 5th February 2007, 18:49   #1 (permalink)
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How many of you are Mac users?

For the past few months I've been looking seriously at the new Intel iMacs. I'm really thinking of making the move from PCs to Macs. Much of this depends on whether I finally get a regular income.

I mainly use Poser & DAZ|Studio. I'm still trying to learn Hexagon and Carrara 5 Pro.

I decided to get ready just in case I'm able to buy the iMac later this year.

I went over to DAZ, and downloaded the Mac versions of all my Poser content. And I downloaded the Mac versions of Carrara 5 Pro, Hexagon, and DAZ|Studio.

DAZ is nice because they don't charge you extra to get the Mac versions of their software.

eFrontier will not be so kind. I must use one serial number to get either the Mac or PC version of Poser. eFrontier did give away Poser 5 for free awhile ago, and I got it. So I could still end up getting both a PC and Mac version of Poser.

So how many of you use Macs?!
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Old 5th February 2007, 19:27   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Ron, I moved this thread to the misc. because it doesn't pertain to Carrara.

Thanks for understanding.

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Old 5th February 2007, 20:17   #3 (permalink)
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For your information, 17% of visitors were on mac this last month.
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Old 5th February 2007, 20:44   #4 (permalink)
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I mainly use Poser & DAZ|Studio. I'm still trying to learn Hexagon and Carrara 5 Pro.

I decided to get ready just in case I'm able to buy the iMac later this year.

I went over to DAZ, and downloaded the Mac versions of all my Poser content. And I downloaded the Mac versions of Carrara 5 Pro, Hexagon, and DAZ|Studio.

DAZ is nice because they don't charge you extra to get the Mac versions of their software.

eFrontier will not be so kind. I must use one serial number to get either the Mac or PC version of Poser. eFrontier did give away Poser 5 for free awhile ago, and I got it. So I could still end up getting both a PC and Mac version of Poser.

So how many of you use Macs?!
Hi, Mac user here.
If you plan to swith to Intel mac verify if the software you want to use is in Universal Binarys (UB), this because all the old software is compiled for work in the PowerPC (PPC) processors (G3, G4, G5) and some softwares (like 3D softwares) not works under "rosetta" (rosetta is an PPC - Intel code traslator).
The UB software have a possibility to run on the old Macs and on the new Macs.
For Carrara exist a 5.1 UB version.
For Hexagon 2 no.

For the others (like poser) I don't know.

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Old 5th February 2007, 21:04   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Ron, I moved this thread to the misc. because it doesn't pertain to Carrara.

Thanks for understanding.

Steven
Steven, in some ways, the thread does pertain to Carrara, since I recently bought it. However, I understand your decision.


The Applications I currently use the most are: Poser, DAZ|Studio, Carrara & Hexagon. I've already gotten the Universal Binary versions of DAZ|Studio, Carrara & Hexagon. I still want to buy Poser 7. (As portrayed in the original post.)

I had an idea that many members of this forum have Macintoshes... and I love to hear your input and insights.

Bear in mind that I have done some extensive research.. and Macs just keep looking better!
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Old 5th February 2007, 23:41   #6 (permalink)
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hi my first computer ever was a

Macintosh Performa 745 22Mhz 4 MbRam 256KbVideo 250 Mb HD
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updatet to..
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iBook G3 366 Mhz ATI 4MbVideo 20GbHd

PowerMac G5 Quad -the one in my signature

Now i just open my MacPro
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Old 6th February 2007, 00:31   #7 (permalink)
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What is the advantage for you to move from Win to MAC?
I am Win user, but I am just curious.
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Old 6th February 2007, 02:11   #8 (permalink)
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Well, I want something new! I want to avoid all the pitfalls of the Windows operating systems... I want to avoid Vista like the plague.

The new Macs feature an Intel processor, and can even run Windows XP software, with the help of Bootcamp.

Besides, the iMacs are sweet! They take up very little desk space.

Oh, they're just great computers.
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Old 6th February 2007, 12:05   #9 (permalink)
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I have heard of more problems for OS X users than Windows users on these forums. I thought the Mac OS only supported Open GL up to 1.4.

You can get great custom built PC with XP installed. Vista is out there but you do not have to use it.
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Old 6th February 2007, 18:23   #10 (permalink)
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"Well, I want something new!"
That would do it for me as well. It could be good to play with OS X for a change. The MAC looks used to be also far better, now with Sony and few others heavily stepping into the design area WIN users have also some cool models to choose from. Last time I had seen Sony laptop in store (it was all white) I actually thought it is a MAC.
But the apps for video and DVD (FC, Mot2, DVD SP..) on MAC are sweet-sweet and not that horribly expensive (actually net-net I think a pro solution on MAC would be cheaper than on WIN), if I was PRO in this field I would buy MAC just for them.

See you know WINE, the virtualization of win API for Linux. The same can be done for MAC, even more on iMAC so win apps can run on MAC directly, without speed issues, without booting or a separate WIN emulator window. But Apple would not allow the wild WIN apps directly on MAC, never, ever. And messing with dual boot or slow emulator is not something appealing. But if you don't need any WIN apps, go for it, could be fun!
I stay on XP and stay away from Vista, hehehe, I installed it on one of my Vista ready laptop and now I have the benefit of 2 times slower file copy and none of my OpenGL 3D apps working correctly. Evolution in computing!
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Old 6th February 2007, 19:34   #11 (permalink)
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Apple allows you to install Windows XP on the Intel Mac. You use Bootcamp to accomplish the goal. When your Mac boots, you choose to boot in Windows XP or OS/X.
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Old 7th February 2007, 00:28   #12 (permalink)
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theres a mac program call "crossover".You can run several Win apps without the need to install windows! I even got Carrara 5.1 and vue 6 extreem to run and render (grafic display was corupped though but the render was fine). The next version of crossover might even run more apps. http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/
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Old 7th February 2007, 01:23   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info.

I already have downloaded the Mac versions of Hexagon, Carrara 5 Pro and DAZ|Studio.

So I will already be at a good starting point if I do buy the iMac later this year.
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Old 7th February 2007, 01:36   #14 (permalink)
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From what I read, the majority of people with Macs have more bugs and difficulties with a huge range of apps than do Pc users.

If you are watching carefully, it seems pretty clear that more and more app makers are not going to make mac versions in the future. That Mac has introduced the crossover I think confirms that.

This so called problem with WindowsXP (and IE) I find so very strange. I don't have a single worry. Ok at times it's a bit slow. but thats my fault because my system is overloaded.

The beta of Vista has been great to see and use - it really is brilliant- BUT I think there is a problem relating to Open GL that has to be resolved.

Anyway, must astute computer people usually wait for the first SR before they buy don't they?
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What???
do you know what you are talking about Brian?
If you are basing software issues on a Mac by these forums, then you need to look elsewhere. Hex 2 is problematic on a Mac. As opposed to a PC which it runs flawlessly on

As far as "app makers" I'm not sure what you mean, who has quit making Mac apps???...I must not be looking close enough.


The reason for crossover/ or bootcamp is because you can. Apple has gained a new fan base from it's ipod business, and this gives people the option of buying a new computer and still being able to run their "old" software, with buying a new everything

As for the fact that they now use intell chips that is bacause Motorola could not make a G5 chip as fast as was required by Apple without massive heat build up. Intell developed the duo core and made it possible for Apple to produce g5 laptops, that didn't singe the hair off your legs. Thats why there were no g5 ibooks prior to the intell chip.


"but thats my fault because my system is overloaded."
What does you system being overloaded have to do with slow browser performance? Must be a Windows thing???

To answer Ron's question:
Yes I am a Mac user
here is my history of Machines

Apple IIc 1978
Apple IIe ~1980
Lisa '83
Macintosh plus ~ '88
Mac LC630 ( Pizza Box)
2 Performa's a520 and a 632( i think)
Centris 610
several Quadra's
PowerPC 8500
PowerPC 9500
G4
My current Mac is a G5

oh I forgot to mention the Powerbooks
Duo 280c
3400
G3
Titanium G4

I have never bought a new machine because my old one died, I have never had a virus, and I have NEVER, had to have a machine serviced.... and Yes I am a FANBOY
BTW: I don't hate Windows... I've never used it, It could be great, and I have just been missing out for the past 28 years

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Thanks for sharing your experience, rickei.

That means a lot to me.
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In reply to Reckei,--I think we must follow different forums. But any way---
Why would any app make maker --in the future--unnecessarily produce two forms of an app (with the risks of adding problems in the conversion) when one version will surfice?

Maybe there will be a PC "converter" soon so that those who design in Mac form wont have to do a PC version?--Fine by me.

In the relation to the "slow" bit--I am at fault in that I load a lot of my new stuff directly into the app (say Carrara--Browser) rather than an "outside" accesable file. If you can do that and not slow down the opening of Carrara on Mac I best think again!
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BTW: I don't hate Windows... I've never used it, It could be great, and I have just been missing out for the past 28 years

Trust me. You're not missing anything.

I swtiched 7 years ago and have never looked back. I still have to use Windows at work, which is annoying because I spend as much time trying to make Windows work the way it should as I do being productive. On the upside, I can take work home and actually get something done there on the Mac, and cross-platform file format compatibility is not even an issue these days.
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To answer Ron's question:
Yes I am a Mac user
here is my history of Machines

Apple IIc 1978
Apple IIe ~1980
Lisa '83
Macintosh plus ~ '88
Mac LC630 ( Pizza Box)
2 Performa's a520 and a 632( i think)
Centris 610
several Quadra's
PowerPC 8500
PowerPC 9500
G4
My current Mac is a G5

oh I forgot to mention the Powerbooks
Duo 280c
3400
G3
Titanium G4
You got your dates bit wrong...

Apple IIc was first released in April 24 1984 (Lisa and IIe 1983), 2 months later I got my first Apple IIe, cuz it got cheaper.

British ZX series (Sinclair) were so popular in the Europe at that time that I could not ignore it any longer , so I diched Apple for a cheaper ZX thing an bunch of games included with it, it was hell of the ride for sure
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I was tyring to remember those dates, I actually started in 78 with the Apple ][ or II
i think I had a "II plus" at some point in time...now that I think about it.
My father was a school principal, and the school got new apples whenevr they came out, but... no one at the school even knew how to turn them on. So he got permission to take them home, to try and figure it out. Thats where i came in.

Hehe I almost forgot about the Sinclair... not that big in the states. We had Tandy

Didn't Sinclair make all kinds of gadgets?? I don't remember if that was them or not. I guess i could look it up.

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