[Silo]anyone? - Polyloop

thomllama · 9th December 2007, 04:25

anyone using/trying silo? I just got the demo and it seems a lot like Hex, which I like and it seems to work better though something still feels off to me.

anyway. anyone got hints, tricks, info on it?

bwtr · 9th December 2007, 05:00

I have both Silo and Hexagon. I do not see Silo, yet, improving on Hexagon overall.
Have a look at the $99 ViaCad app. Combined with say Carrara---WOW!

My son says ViaCad is equal to many of the apps costing in the many thousands! (He lectures on AutoCad!)

juanmanuel · 9th December 2007, 06:05

Probably almost anything is better at modelling than Autocad!!!!! I used it for years in my ex-job, and it gives me the shivers to model in it. To anything in it, for that matter...

As to Silo vs Hexagon for SDS modelling, in general, I believe it is a workflow preference issue.

Look for the tutorials by Cinnesleach in the official Silo forum. They're great.

bwtr · 9th December 2007, 06:22

ViaCad is the Rhino, Amapi---Nerbs type modelling app we have all been waiting for I think? Some very excellent tutorial movies at the site and on the forum.

juanmanuel · 9th December 2007, 16:43

For nurbs you can also try MOI. I tried it once, and didn't quite understand it. But that is me.

thomllama · 12th December 2007, 01:08

Well I love Hex cept it doesn't like my Macs much and wont work at all with OS 10.5.

Daz is also flaky at best and the few answers I have gotten from them have been anything but encouraging. Their answer to dual monitor issues is just ridiculous.

I'll look into ViaCad but I have a feeling from the look of the interface it may not be for me. but that is just from a picture so I will go watch the demos before I truly judge

Nate Owens · 12th December 2007, 02:56

I think the workflow thing is it.... a matter of personal preference.

I have had Silo for a long time and quit upgrading... the fixes and the breakdowns, the breakdowns and the fixes.... etc. etc.... just made my head swim.

Anyway, the much bashed Hexagon is friendly to me and I like it, so - as I said, it is personal attachment.

Thomllama's comment is one reason why I wish Hexagon was popular here at PolyLoop again... at PolyLoop you don't have to weed out so much nonsense to get a reasonable answer (or question, for that matter.)

transient · 12th December 2007, 03:53

Quote:

Anyway, the much bashed Hexagon is friendly to me and I like it, so - as I said, it is personal attachment.

I'm probably one of those people, but I'm in the process of doing a backflip.

I've just reinstalled Hexagon and upgraded it to 2.2, and most of my problems have disappeared. I'm not getting the seams issue with the painting tools when I export now either.

I also finally got around to watching Thomas's Nierd video and saw his edge modeling techniques, and now it's easily my favourite modeling program.

I wish I'd had a stable version earlier on, but it's all cool now. It's a pity Thomas and the others couldn't see this app through. Maybe Daz will come to their senses and let them have another crack at it.

wibble · 12th December 2007, 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwtr

ViaCad is the Rhino, Amapi---Nerbs type modelling app we have all been waiting for I think? Some very excellent tutorial movies at the site and on the forum.

ViaCad (Concepts 3D) is great!. While it's not quite as fun or as easy to use as MoI, it's filleting functions are probably the most robust I've ever seen. ViaCad will fillet almost anything you throw at it.

If MoI wasn't around then ViaCad would definitely be my #1 choice for NURBS stuff.

Nate Owens · 12th December 2007, 04:57

bwtr - I guess you aren't here anymore, but dang, you made me look.

ViaCad... erm...

Rhino user bites his tongue... I gotta take another look at that one.
(Do they play that darn orchestra during all of their tutorials?)

... Hey, Shorty.... where are you??...

transient · 12th December 2007, 05:41

ViaCad is excellent. If it wasn't for this forum I probably wouldn't have heard of it (thanks BWTR).

jbshorty · 12th December 2007, 05:54

Here i am

ViaCAD is a powerful (and inexpensive!) program. For me it can not replace Rhino for modeling, but perhaps can fill some needs for MCAD detailing (which i am doing a bit more of these days) and also for creating BOM's and technical drawings. For the price, it is really unbeatable... Too bad the interface is so fricking horrible...

shorty

Nate Owens · 12th December 2007, 17:32

So as to not be in the line of fire when accusations of hi-jacking this thread about Silo start, I have started another separate thread investigating the merits of ViaCad here.
If you have anything to add - please feel free. If you find it irritating, don't.
(not sure if this link is right, but you can get there that-a-way)

9th December 2007, 04:25	#1 (permalink)
thomllama That's just cool man! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 31	[Silo]anyone? anyone using/trying silo? I just got the demo and it seems a lot like Hex, which I like and it seems to work better though something still feels off to me. anyway. anyone got hints, tricks, info on it?

9th December 2007, 06:05	#3 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241 Images: 2	Probably almost anything is better at modelling than Autocad!!!!! I used it for years in my ex-job, and it gives me the shivers to model in it. To anything in it, for that matter... As to Silo vs Hexagon for SDS modelling, in general, I believe it is a workflow preference issue. Look for the tutorials by Cinnesleach in the official Silo forum. They're great. __________________ passionately alive This is my blog This is my portfolio

9th December 2007, 16:43	#5 (permalink)
juanmanuel Madly in love Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puebla, Mexico Posts: 241 Images: 2	For nurbs you can also try MOI. I tried it once, and didn't quite understand it. But that is me. __________________ passionately alive This is my blog This is my portfolio

12th December 2007, 02:56	#7 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 983 Images: 11	I think the workflow thing is it.... a matter of personal preference. I have had Silo for a long time and quit upgrading... the fixes and the breakdowns, the breakdowns and the fixes.... etc. etc.... just made my head swim. Anyway, the much bashed Hexagon is friendly to me and I like it, so - as I said, it is personal attachment. Thomllama's comment is one reason why I wish Hexagon was popular here at PolyLoop again... at PolyLoop you don't have to weed out so much nonsense to get a reasonable answer (or question, for that matter.) __________________ Portfolio / Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos

12th December 2007, 04:57	#10 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 983 Images: 11	bwtr - I guess you aren't here anymore, but dang, you made me look. ViaCad... erm... Rhino user bites his tongue... I gotta take another look at that one. (Do they play that darn orchestra during all of their tutorials?) ... Hey, Shorty.... where are you??... __________________ Portfolio / Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos

9th December 2007, 05:00	#2 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	I have both Silo and Hexagon. I do not see Silo, yet, improving on Hexagon overall. Have a look at the $99 ViaCad app. Combined with say Carrara---WOW! My son says ViaCad is equal to many of the apps costing in the many thousands! (He lectures on AutoCad!)

9th December 2007, 06:22	#4 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,068 Images: 49	ViaCad is the Rhino, Amapi---Nerbs type modelling app we have all been waiting for I think? Some very excellent tutorial movies at the site and on the forum.

12th December 2007, 01:08	#6 (permalink)
thomllama That's just cool man! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 31	Well I love Hex cept it doesn't like my Macs much and wont work at all with OS 10.5. Daz is also flaky at best and the few answers I have gotten from them have been anything but encouraging. Their answer to dual monitor issues is just ridiculous. I'll look into ViaCad but I have a feeling from the look of the interface it may not be for me. but that is just from a picture so I will go watch the demos before I truly judge

12th December 2007, 05:41	#11 (permalink)
transient Extrusion Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 164	ViaCad is excellent. If it wasn't for this forum I probably wouldn't have heard of it (thanks BWTR).

12th December 2007, 05:54	#12 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,314 Images: 1	Here i am ViaCAD is a powerful (and inexpensive!) program. For me it can not replace Rhino for modeling, but perhaps can fill some needs for MCAD detailing (which i am doing a bit more of these days) and also for creating BOM's and technical drawings. For the price, it is really unbeatable... Too bad the interface is so fricking horrible... shorty

12th December 2007, 17:32	#13 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 983 Images: 11	So as to not be in the line of fire when accusations of hi-jacking this thread about Silo start, I have started another separate thread investigating the merits of ViaCad here. If you have anything to add - please feel free. If you find it irritating, don't. (not sure if this link is right, but you can get there that-a-way) __________________ Portfolio / Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos

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