Diamond Tutorial - Polyloop

Grendel · 2nd January 2006, 05:44

Attached is a three part PDF of modeling a diamond in Hexagon. This is a basic tutorial that can be accomplished by those new to Hexagon. Shown is a simple ring using the stones demonstrated in the tutorial.

Grendel · 2nd January 2006, 05:52

Attached are parts 2 & 3 of the tutorial. Enjoy

Corndog · 2nd January 2006, 07:29

Awesome... ty
Will do that one next

Thomas · 2nd January 2006, 10:16

Cool Grendel ! You didn't have any problems to upload it?
And thank you for your contribution!

JuST · 2nd January 2006, 14:47

Nice one! I'll try to do a ring next too. Thank you for your work.

zales1111 · 3rd January 2006, 16:21

Anyone who could possibly help, I cannot seem to get a diamond to render in Carrara5 without seeing the gold ring right through it?

Thanks

Grendel · 4th January 2006, 06:59

Ahhh, the big problem that has caused alot of headaches.

How to get a transparent and reflective object from not picking up color from exterior inflences. This makes it hard to get good looking suspension set stones. You might want to try using a different shader for the pavilion section of the stone. This can exclude alot of the color that is seeping into the stone. I've attached a screenshot of a similar ring and it's stone shader. All the gold is not gone but it is reduced quite a bit.

Zales1111....not the diamond store Zales?

odeathoflife · 4th January 2006, 07:32

I do not understand what you are doing on part 2 when you separate the top and bottom///care to elaborate in step 2 you dissassissiate and in 3 move down then in step 4 what are you doing there ?

zales1111 · 4th January 2006, 15:27

Thanks, I will try that

I am just trying to get a diamond to look like a Diamond.
No... Not the zales jewelry people.

thanks for the reply, if you ever have any other ideas on how to do this, I would sure like to hear them.

odeathoflife · 5th January 2006, 05:02

made the diamond in Hex and animated using trueSpace physics

www.members.shaw.ca/burnttoast/diamondsVid.mpg

icek14 · 7th February 2006, 22:27

is it just me but when i click the pdf it doesnt work>????

odeathoflife · 8th February 2006, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by icek14

is it just me but when i click the pdf it doesnt work>????

Seems to be just you I just checked the pdf's and they seem to be working.

phoenix · 9th February 2006, 13:14

Hi! I have a problem with textures of diamond in carrara. I tried to make diamond to look real (like you guys did), but it just dont work. I mean i made something which looked more like some precious gem (although that wasnt my intention), but this i see only in texteture room. When i go back and try to render all i get is a black object?!?

Grendel · 9th February 2006, 14:07

It sounds like you do not have light through transparency selected off the top of my head or no lights in the assembly room. A screencap of your shader and one of the render room would help. The diamond preset is a great place to start if you have not tried that already.

phoenix · 9th February 2006, 20:01

hmmm i havent saved that settings nor picture, because I was pissed off

and now I just cant find the right combination

About that diamond preset.... where exactly can I find it, because I was looking for some presets, but it seems I have missed it.

I have add something similar, which after rendering totaly disapears.

Grendel · 9th February 2006, 20:35

Diamond preset is under your browser Shaders tab/ basic shaders.

phoenix · 10th February 2006, 11:10

Ok I have tried that diamond preset, and under textetures it looks great, but again when I render I dont get anything out of it. Everything is black, I cant even see where the diamond is located on the picture

Grendel · 10th February 2006, 13:30

Can you post a assembly room screencap and a render room screencap?

phoenix · 11th February 2006, 11:48

Ok here are assamble, texture and render room.

Grendel · 12th February 2006, 12:43

Just by looking at it I would do the following. Turn on light through transparency in ther render room, make sure camera 1 is selected in the render room output tab. Make sure you have some sort of light source in the assemble room, insert a plane or infinite plane to give the diamond something to reflect other than blackness, try using an HDRI map that came with carrara in your scene background as a light source, turn on global illumination after you select a hdri map. A spotlight on the table of the diamond will help to get it to sparkle.

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3rd January 2006, 16:21	#6 (permalink)
zales1111 Vertex Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	Anyone who could possibly help, I cannot seem to get a diamond to render in Carrara5 without seeing the gold ring right through it? Thanks Attached Thumbnails

4th January 2006, 06:59	#7 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,277	Ahhh, the big problem that has caused alot of headaches. How to get a transparent and reflective object from not picking up color from exterior inflences. This makes it hard to get good looking suspension set stones. You might want to try using a different shader for the pavilion section of the stone. This can exclude alot of the color that is seeping into the stone. I've attached a screenshot of a similar ring and it's stone shader. All the gold is not gone but it is reduced quite a bit. Zales1111....not the diamond store Zales? Attached Thumbnails

4th January 2006, 07:32	#8 (permalink)
odeathoflife Vertex Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 25	I do not understand what you are doing on part 2 when you separate the top and bottom///care to elaborate in step 2 you dissassissiate and in 3 move down then in step 4 what are you doing there ? __________________ Allan McCormick Burnt Toast Design Your Choice for 3D, Web and Print Development

2nd January 2006, 14:47	#5 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 509	Nice one! I'll try to do a ring next too. Thank you for your work.

4th January 2006, 15:27	#9 (permalink)
zales1111 Vertex Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	Thanks, I will try that I am just trying to get a diamond to look like a Diamond. No... Not the zales jewelry people. thanks for the reply, if you ever have any other ideas on how to do this, I would sure like to hear them.

5th January 2006, 05:02	#10 (permalink)
odeathoflife Vertex Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 25	made the diamond in Hex and animated using trueSpace physics www.members.shaw.ca/burnttoast/diamondsVid.mpg __________________ Allan McCormick Burnt Toast Design Your Choice for 3D, Web and Print Development

7th February 2006, 22:27	#11 (permalink)
icek14 Vertex Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	is it just me but when i click the pdf it doesnt work>????

9th February 2006, 13:14	#13 (permalink)
phoenix Vertex Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9	Hi! I have a problem with textures of diamond in carrara. I tried to make diamond to look real (like you guys did), but it just dont work. I mean i made something which looked more like some precious gem (although that wasnt my intention), but this i see only in texteture room. When i go back and try to render all i get is a black object?!?

9th February 2006, 14:07	#14 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,277	It sounds like you do not have light through transparency selected off the top of my head or no lights in the assembly room. A screencap of your shader and one of the render room would help. The diamond preset is a great place to start if you have not tried that already.

9th February 2006, 20:01	#15 (permalink)
phoenix Vertex Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9	hmmm i havent saved that settings nor picture, because I was pissed off and now I just cant find the right combination About that diamond preset.... where exactly can I find it, because I was looking for some presets, but it seems I have missed it. I have add something similar, which after rendering totaly disapears. Attached Thumbnails

9th February 2006, 20:35	#16 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,277	Diamond preset is under your browser Shaders tab/ basic shaders.

10th February 2006, 11:10	#17 (permalink)
phoenix Vertex Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9	Ok I have tried that diamond preset, and under textetures it looks great, but again when I render I dont get anything out of it. Everything is black, I cant even see where the diamond is located on the picture

10th February 2006, 13:30	#18 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,277	Can you post a assembly room screencap and a render room screencap?

11th February 2006, 11:48	#19 (permalink)
phoenix Vertex Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9	Ok here are assamble, texture and render room. Attached Thumbnails

12th February 2006, 12:43	#20 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,277	Just by looking at it I would do the following. Turn on light through transparency in ther render room, make sure camera 1 is selected in the render room output tab. Make sure you have some sort of light source in the assemble room, insert a plane or infinite plane to give the diamond something to reflect other than blackness, try using an HDRI map that came with carrara in your scene background as a light source, turn on global illumination after you select a hdri map. A spotlight on the table of the diamond will help to get it to sparkle.

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