Modeling of a digital camera - Page 2 - Polyloop

h.davey · 30th December 2005, 17:46

Grendel; I got to the point shown and then stoped because I did not know how to fix the red circled areas. I also learned not to add too many lines to an area (ie. around the eye piece) until I had worked out how I was going to carry on - too many points to move and not the right areas flat. I havn't worked out how to do the eye shade yet. I probably will start over rather than try to fix this model.

Thanks for all the helpful advice,
H. Davey

Grendel · 30th December 2005, 17:56

A unsmoothed view would be alot easier to troubleshoot. It looks good though, and you're right about adding lines haphazardly when relying on subdivisions and low poly cages to govern the shape of the object.

h.davey · 30th December 2005, 18:06

Grendel: Here are the two trouble areas unsmoothed. How could they be changed to avoid the pinched areas?
Thanks,
Hal Davey

Corndog · 30th December 2005, 22:55

I am having some trouble with page 16 step 3. camera lens ..It states select the first loop and sweep extrude.. I am not getting the desired results..Is it the last row of faces on the lens I select and is it the extract tool that looks like hous that I use?

Ty

Corndog · 31st December 2005, 05:03

aaaghh figured it out.. I was selecting the last ring instead of the lense area..
sorry to bother

Grendel · 31st December 2005, 06:14

Hal, I've edited your screenshots and this should help fix your problems. A good way to help troubleshoot problems like this with 'pinching' is to enable the smoothing control cage view at the bottom of the dynamic geometry pallete. Just click on the little ball and turn it into a caged ball. Then you can see exactly where the influence is happening too much or not enough. I hope this helps.

Corndog - It looks good, keep going you're almost done.

Corndog · 1st January 2006, 20:39

My Camera..
Ty for the tutorial.This is my second model/second tutorial. First one was the gift replicated. No materials or extra detailed added to the camera. I learned a tonne Thanks again

Digger · 18th March 2006, 22:10

Hey everybody! I'm new to this group and Hexagon as well. I'm following this tut to get to know Hexagon and I'm stuck on step two already

How do I tesselate to a value of 7? Can't seem to hit on the right thing to make that happen.

Thanks

Corndog · 19th March 2006, 01:02

Off the top of my head.. Create your cube then hit tab..Look in the properties table and enter 7 in the tesselate option then validate.. Hope thats right.. have nothing here to look at...

Digger · 19th March 2006, 14:31

Well I don't know whats up with my computer.

Yesterday the tesselate box was not present in the tool properties box.

Today Hexagon was behaving oddly when I added a cube. The cube would move around the screen with the mouse. So after powering down the computer and restarting, all seems normal now and lo and behold, the tessalate box is now present.

My mouse has been totally erratic since moving to my new office.

On with the tut.

Carbon · 15th April 2006, 22:12

Agree with Digger 'Tesselate to value of 7' how?

Am also confused by reference above to Tab key? and Properties table?

I select cube and hit X (Or select its Icon) I get a 'Tool Properties' Window, but all it contains are two icons Continuous Tesselation by Segment and Tesselation by Slice, nothing else.

Any suggestions to where I am going wrong?

thanks

C.

Grendel · 15th April 2006, 22:34

If you zoom in on the picture of step two you can see in the tool properties palette the tesselation slider, this became available in version 1.21.

Carbon · 15th April 2006, 23:03

Hi, tnx for prompt reply.

I guess I am missing something here .....it says 1.21 Demo on the startup splash screen.

rgds

C.

Grendel · 16th April 2006, 04:54

When you first make the cube look in the same location before you press enter to validate the cubes creation and you can enter the amount of tesselation you require during creation.. That palette is displaying correctly for the separate tesselate function.

Carbon · 16th April 2006, 09:43

Quote:

look in the same location before you press enter

Hah!

So it is, but where does that feature appear in the docs?

When I searched for tesselate (10 hits) I saw no mention of it, just the tesselate tool.

Also simply repositioning the cube loses the tesselation amount box (which has been my next step after dragging it out to size). I understand now after seeing your comment and reading up on 'Cube' that selecting the manipulator also validates the object. Doh!

thanks, for helping

C.

Grendel · 16th April 2006, 14:20

it's not in the documentation, it can be found in the 1.2 What's New HTML.

RAMWolff · 30th April 2006, 05:07

Thanks for the tut Grendel.

Newbie Hex user

Richard ;-)~

mdwsr · 7th May 2006, 18:58

Thank you.

Melamkish · 9th May 2006, 01:32

New modeler, new to Hexagon. This tut has taught me an awful lot. I'm figuring out how to correct mistakes by manipulating the mesh rather than using the undo command, although I still use it a lot.

But I am stuck. I have completed the lens and extracted a circle. No matter what I have tried, I cannot get more points on the circle. It will not smooth. I think I missed something.

Using v2 with full DG. I'm gonna try the extraction again, but any pointers would be helpful.

Thanks.

Melamkish · 9th May 2006, 01:40

Ok, just figured it out. All this time I have been smoothing the camera with the smoothing tool in the properties box. Didn't work for the extracted circle. When I tried it using the smoothing control icon in the vertex modeling tab, it works.

Thanks again.

30th December 2005, 17:46	#21 (permalink)
h.davey Spline Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bedford, Texas Posts: 31	A Start - but not finished Grendel; I got to the point shown and then stoped because I did not know how to fix the red circled areas. I also learned not to add too many lines to an area (ie. around the eye piece) until I had worked out how I was going to carry on - too many points to move and not the right areas flat. I havn't worked out how to do the eye shade yet. I probably will start over rather than try to fix this model. Thanks for all the helpful advice, H. Davey Attached Thumbnails __________________ "You don't know what it is that you don't know!"

30th December 2005, 18:06	#23 (permalink)
h.davey Spline Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bedford, Texas Posts: 31	Trouble areas unsmoothed Grendel: Here are the two trouble areas unsmoothed. How could they be changed to avoid the pinched areas? Thanks, Hal Davey Attached Thumbnails __________________ "You don't know what it is that you don't know!"

30th December 2005, 22:55	#24 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	I am having some trouble with page 16 step 3. camera lens ..It states select the first loop and sweep extrude.. I am not getting the desired results..Is it the last row of faces on the lens I select and is it the extract tool that looks like hous that I use? Ty Attached Thumbnails __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

31st December 2005, 05:03	#25 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	aaaghh figured it out.. I was selecting the last ring instead of the lense area.. sorry to bother __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

31st December 2005, 06:14	#26 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,250	Hal, I've edited your screenshots and this should help fix your problems. A good way to help troubleshoot problems like this with 'pinching' is to enable the smoothing control cage view at the bottom of the dynamic geometry pallete. Just click on the little ball and turn it into a caged ball. Then you can see exactly where the influence is happening too much or not enough. I hope this helps. Corndog - It looks good, keep going you're almost done. Attached Thumbnails

30th December 2005, 17:56	#22 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,250	A unsmoothed view would be alot easier to troubleshoot. It looks good though, and you're right about adding lines haphazardly when relying on subdivisions and low poly cages to govern the shape of the object.

1st January 2006, 20:39	#27 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	My Camera.. Ty for the tutorial.This is my second model/second tutorial. First one was the gift replicated. No materials or extra detailed added to the camera. I learned a tonne Thanks again Attached Thumbnails __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

18th March 2006, 22:10	#28 (permalink)
Digger Vertex Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17	Hey everybody! I'm new to this group and Hexagon as well. I'm following this tut to get to know Hexagon and I'm stuck on step two already How do I tesselate to a value of 7? Can't seem to hit on the right thing to make that happen. Thanks

19th March 2006, 01:02	#29 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384	Off the top of my head.. Create your cube then hit tab..Look in the properties table and enter 7 in the tesselate option then validate.. Hope thats right.. have nothing here to look at... __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

19th March 2006, 14:31	#30 (permalink)
Digger Vertex Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17	Well I don't know whats up with my computer. Yesterday the tesselate box was not present in the tool properties box. Today Hexagon was behaving oddly when I added a cube. The cube would move around the screen with the mouse. So after powering down the computer and restarting, all seems normal now and lo and behold, the tessalate box is now present. My mouse has been totally erratic since moving to my new office. On with the tut.

15th April 2006, 22:12	#31 (permalink)
Carbon Vertex Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3	Agree with Digger 'Tesselate to value of 7' how? Am also confused by reference above to Tab key? and Properties table? I select cube and hit X (Or select its Icon) I get a 'Tool Properties' Window, but all it contains are two icons Continuous Tesselation by Segment and Tesselation by Slice, nothing else. Any suggestions to where I am going wrong? thanks C.

15th April 2006, 22:34	#32 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,250	If you zoom in on the picture of step two you can see in the tool properties palette the tesselation slider, this became available in version 1.21. Attached Thumbnails

15th April 2006, 23:03	#33 (permalink)
Carbon Vertex Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3	Hi, tnx for prompt reply. I guess I am missing something here .....it says 1.21 Demo on the startup splash screen. rgds C.

16th April 2006, 04:54	#34 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,250	When you first make the cube look in the same location before you press enter to validate the cubes creation and you can enter the amount of tesselation you require during creation.. That palette is displaying correctly for the separate tesselate function.

16th April 2006, 14:20	#36 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,250	it's not in the documentation, it can be found in the 1.2 What's New HTML.

30th April 2006, 05:07	#37 (permalink)
RAMWolff Dreamer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: RWC, CA USA Posts: 27	Thanks for the tut Grendel. Newbie Hex user Richard ;-)~ __________________ Wolff On The Prowl

7th May 2006, 18:58	#38 (permalink)
mdwsr Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5	Thank you.

9th May 2006, 01:32	#39 (permalink)
Melamkish Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	New modeler, new to Hexagon. This tut has taught me an awful lot. I'm figuring out how to correct mistakes by manipulating the mesh rather than using the undo command, although I still use it a lot. But I am stuck. I have completed the lens and extracted a circle. No matter what I have tried, I cannot get more points on the circle. It will not smooth. I think I missed something. Using v2 with full DG. I'm gonna try the extraction again, but any pointers would be helpful. Thanks.

9th May 2006, 01:40	#40 (permalink)
Melamkish Vertex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Ok, just figured it out. All this time I have been smoothing the camera with the smoothing tool in the properties box. Didn't work for the extracted circle. When I tried it using the smoothing control icon in the vertex modeling tab, it works. Thanks again.

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