boot camp partitian setup suggestions? - Polyloop

dooki · 29th May 2008, 07:10

OK folks,

I plan on installing XP, games like COD4, Quake wars (no more than three games at any given time.), HEX and Rhino. Any suggestions? I've been reading 32GB is a good minimum.

- I have 200 GB HD.
- I have 80 GB free.

Anyone have an suggestion? Thanks guys.

-Dooki

Thomas · 29th May 2008, 08:41

I run Boot Camp on my MacBook Pro. I choose to do a 32 Gb split, because you can format it in FAT 32 and install XP on it. The good thing with FAT is that Mac OSX can -write- on this partition. If you decide to have a bigger one, you will have to use NTFS as the file format and if you want to write something on it from the MacOS side, you will have to cheat, install stuff and have poor results.

Installing XP will take around 4-5 Gb, then, you have enough space to install 3 games and two software, with enough free space for everything else.

If you need to install vista, well, it's something else (Vista takes around 16 Gb after the first install...)

For your information, I installed several OS with several results :
- Vista 32: ok, no problems.. but vista really sucks : slow, takes a lot of ressources, etc.
- Vista 64: failed : installation was ok, but impossible to install all the drivers for my Mac and the update for bootcamp never worked... see only 3 Gb of Ram. I have 4 Gb
- XP 64: same result about the drivers like Vista 64... See only 3Gb of ram
- XP 32: ok. This s the last one I installed. Faster, not a lot of space taken by the OS, I will continue with that one. Only 3Gb of ram visible.

dooki · 29th May 2008, 16:15

Thank you sir for the great info. I'm sure this will help other mac guys out there!

Yeah I read about "Fat / NTFS" but I really don't know what these mean? Any chance you can shed some light on this to an old fart? ;-P

-Dooki

Joppe · 29th May 2008, 22:27

I also run bootcamp with XP on a 500 Gb disk and choose for NTFS 150 Gb for XP because I wanted to install lots of games and some serious softs.
Because you can't write on the disk then, I also installed Parralels and that's easy to use in the background and install, read and write to the disk. You can also use programs as Office and Zbrush on Parralels.
I have a 2 Ghz core duo Imac with 2 Gb Ram.
It works perfect.

I even tried to use Carrara on both sides. When I render somthing on the Mac side then I can build on the PC side.
Nice.

dooki · 30th May 2008, 00:18

Thanks Joppe,

So are you saying that I can install X through bootcamp and use Parallels (with XP loaded I assume) to access the XP/bootcamp partitian??

-Dooki

Joppe · 30th May 2008, 08:19

That's right. You need only one version of Windows.

First install bootcamp + Windows and next install Parralels. That wil only take you 5 minutes or so.

29th May 2008, 07:10	#1 (permalink)
dooki Box modeling Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 273	boot camp partitian setup suggestions? OK folks, I plan on installing XP, games like COD4, Quake wars (no more than three games at any given time.), HEX and Rhino. Any suggestions? I've been reading 32GB is a good minimum. - I have 200 GB HD. - I have 80 GB free. Anyone have an suggestion? Thanks guys. -Dooki __________________ PC/ P4/ /XP/ 2.4GHz/ 512RAM/ ATI Radeon 9550/256RAM Macbook Pro/Leopard/2.4GHz/4RAM/NVIDIA 8600M (256MB) eMac/ G4/Tiger/ 1.25 GHz/ 768RAM/ ATI Radeon 9200

29th May 2008, 08:41	#2 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,323	I run Boot Camp on my MacBook Pro. I choose to do a 32 Gb split, because you can format it in FAT 32 and install XP on it. The good thing with FAT is that Mac OSX can -write- on this partition. If you decide to have a bigger one, you will have to use NTFS as the file format and if you want to write something on it from the MacOS side, you will have to cheat, install stuff and have poor results. Installing XP will take around 4-5 Gb, then, you have enough space to install 3 games and two software, with enough free space for everything else. If you need to install vista, well, it's something else (Vista takes around 16 Gb after the first install...) For your information, I installed several OS with several results : - Vista 32: ok, no problems.. but vista really sucks : slow, takes a lot of ressources, etc. - Vista 64: failed : installation was ok, but impossible to install all the drivers for my Mac and the update for bootcamp never worked... see only 3 Gb of Ram. I have 4 Gb - XP 64: same result about the drivers like Vista 64... See only 3Gb of ram - XP 32: ok. This s the last one I installed. Faster, not a lot of space taken by the OS, I will continue with that one. Only 3Gb of ram visible. __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

29th May 2008, 16:15	#3 (permalink)
dooki Box modeling Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 273	Thank you sir for the great info. I'm sure this will help other mac guys out there! Yeah I read about "Fat / NTFS" but I really don't know what these mean? Any chance you can shed some light on this to an old fart? ;-P -Dooki __________________ PC/ P4/ /XP/ 2.4GHz/ 512RAM/ ATI Radeon 9550/256RAM Macbook Pro/Leopard/2.4GHz/4RAM/NVIDIA 8600M (256MB) eMac/ G4/Tiger/ 1.25 GHz/ 768RAM/ ATI Radeon 9200

30th May 2008, 00:18	#5 (permalink)
dooki Box modeling Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 273	Thanks Joppe, So are you saying that I can install X through bootcamp and use Parallels (with XP loaded I assume) to access the XP/bootcamp partitian?? -Dooki __________________ PC/ P4/ /XP/ 2.4GHz/ 512RAM/ ATI Radeon 9550/256RAM Macbook Pro/Leopard/2.4GHz/4RAM/NVIDIA 8600M (256MB) eMac/ G4/Tiger/ 1.25 GHz/ 768RAM/ ATI Radeon 9200

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29th May 2008, 22:27	#4 (permalink)
Joppe Say nothing Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 110	I also run bootcamp with XP on a 500 Gb disk and choose for NTFS 150 Gb for XP because I wanted to install lots of games and some serious softs. Because you can't write on the disk then, I also installed Parralels and that's easy to use in the background and install, read and write to the disk. You can also use programs as Office and Zbrush on Parralels. I have a 2 Ghz core duo Imac with 2 Gb Ram. It works perfect. I even tried to use Carrara on both sides. When I render somthing on the Mac side then I can build on the PC side. Nice.

30th May 2008, 08:19	#6 (permalink)
Joppe Say nothing Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 110	That's right. You need only one version of Windows. First install bootcamp + Windows and next install Parralels. That wil only take you 5 minutes or so.