Amapi & Hexagon development Hardware? - Polyloop

Kryoclasm · 19th August 2007, 23:52

This question is for Thomas or anyone who knows.

Can you tell me what kind of hardware that Hexagon and Amapi was developed on.

For example... processor type, video card and OS. I'm sure you maxed out memory but the video card is of the most interest to me.

Thanks for any information.

Pixies · 20th August 2007, 00:58

ZX81
Oric ?

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 01:03

Humm. Somehow I don't believe you.

http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/computers/zx81/zx81.htm
http://www.48katmos.freeuk.com/oric1.htm

jbshorty · 20th August 2007, 02:25

HAL 2000 ?

(Sorry, but i had to say it)

shorty

bwtr · 20th August 2007, 03:04

Seems an odd request? With a team of programmers, not necessarily in the same office--or even country!---one would expect that all sorts of computers of varying specs would be in use.

Does it matter?

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 03:15

I'm interested on the hardware that is preferred, so, it matters to me.

bwtr · 20th August 2007, 04:45

Some people feel happy with hardware A, others with hardware B. It really is quite irrelevant to the end result. Some of the stuff may have been done on Mac, others on Window(XP-Vista?), maybe on Linux--and how many different brands of computers or cards etc/ etc------a survey of "most used" would be pretty meaningless I think.

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 06:12

As a former software programmer, I know it is a fairly routine thing for developers to use an agreed on "standard platform" for most of the initial development.

During usability tests, they branch out and alpha test on legacy and contemporary hardware and operating systems. The beta phase then helps identify any bugs that were not accounted for... "hopefully". Then the software goes gold.

This way, the program in question will be compatible with the intended range of available consumer rigs.

All I am interested in is the specs of the inital platform that the first plemnary development was done on if there was a "standard platform". If not that would be good to know too.

"Gasps for breath"

Wася · 20th August 2007, 07:49

Shade initially was developed on computers with less than 1MB RAM. How could this knowledge help in using Shade 8.5?

Locki · 20th August 2007, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixies

ZX81
Oric ?

ZX81 was my first PC ... aaah all those long endless hours spent trying to load hundreds and hundreds of lines of BASIC from that damn small tape recorder ... oh ! and those spent optimizing a code using Z80 assembler inside comments using PEEK and POKE !

Those who have never had to cope those things don't really know what computer science is

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wася

Shade initially was developed on computers with less than 1MB RAM. How could this knowledge help in using Shade 8.5?

Um, I wouldn't know?

Wася · 20th August 2007, 09:10

Neither do I.

Thomas · 20th August 2007, 11:12

We were working on Dell optiplex computers as main hardware, with 2 Gb of RAM, various graphic cards (x600 pro for a good part of the team, 20 inch screens), a G5Mac for the main part of the development, we had also two intel prototype computers which jhas been used for testing, a MacbookPro 15 inch (one of my computer) for mainly testing on PC and mac environments.
We also had a Cintiq from Wacom (thanks again Wacom !)
Pascal had a Dell laptop too, but more for administrative tasks.

On my side, I was on dual screen (two 20" one 4/3 and the other 16/10)

We had severcal video cards form ATI and nvidia and swap them time to time, depending on test.

But Amapi was in the final stage for the public beta and we didn't have the time to switch to testing stage and we didn't take the time to tests AMapi on various hardware (I mean, as much hardware as possible).

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 14:16

Thats great, even more info than I thought to get. See I would have guessed that the reference PC video card would have been an ATI FireGL card. Knowing that is was a X600 pro lets me know that the card I am using is fairly good for these programs. I'm using a X1950 Pro AGP.

So I if I decide to upgrade, I know a FireGL card should run lightning fast. That will be when I upgrade to PCI-E motherboard.

Thanks again Thomas!

Thomas · 20th August 2007, 15:46

we had very bad feedback from our users about FireGL video cards (and not only with Amapi). One of our video card is a quadro (don't remember the model..)

Kryoclasm · 20th August 2007, 15:57

Really?

That is very interesting. Good thing to know too.

mayito7777 · 20th August 2007, 17:12

This is the computer used in Cuba to help the development of Hexagon

mayito7777 · 20th August 2007, 17:13

I think it is a KASTRO-59

Pixies · 21st August 2007, 00:35

Its a trs 80 by tandy

shoeach · 21st August 2007, 04:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayito7777

I think it is a KASTRO-59

mayito, it looks a very charming PC, but I guess that you need considerable imagination for mastering this PC.

Syuichi

19th August 2007, 23:52	#1 (permalink)
Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	Amapi & Hexagon development Hardware? This question is for Thomas or anyone who knows. Can you tell me what kind of hardware that Hexagon and Amapi was developed on. For example... processor type, video card and OS. I'm sure you maxed out memory but the video card is of the most interest to me. Thanks for any information. __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci

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Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	Humm. Somehow I don't believe you. http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/computers/zx81/zx81.htm http://www.48katmos.freeuk.com/oric1.htm __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci Last edited by Kryoclasm : 20th August 2007 at 03:14.

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Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	I'm interested on the hardware that is preferred, so, it matters to me. __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci

20th August 2007, 06:12	#8 (permalink)
Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	As a former software programmer, I know it is a fairly routine thing for developers to use an agreed on "standard platform" for most of the initial development. During usability tests, they branch out and alpha test on legacy and contemporary hardware and operating systems. The beta phase then helps identify any bugs that were not accounted for... "hopefully". Then the software goes gold. This way, the program in question will be compatible with the intended range of available consumer rigs. All I am interested in is the specs of the inital platform that the first plemnary development was done on if there was a "standard platform". If not that would be good to know too. "Gasps for breath" __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci

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Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 310 My Photos: (3)	Shade initially was developed on computers with less than 1MB RAM. How could this knowledge help in using Shade 8.5? __________________ (Vista 64-bit, Intel E6700, 2GB, GeForce 8800GTS)

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Pixies NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 106 My Photos: (0)	ZX81 Oric ?

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jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,259 My Photos: (0) Images: 1	HAL 2000 ? (Sorry, but i had to say it) shorty

20th August 2007, 03:04	#5 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,041 My Photos: (6) Images: 49	Seems an odd request? With a team of programmers, not necessarily in the same office--or even country!---one would expect that all sorts of computers of varying specs would be in use. Does it matter?

20th August 2007, 04:45	#7 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,041 My Photos: (6) Images: 49	Some people feel happy with hardware A, others with hardware B. It really is quite irrelevant to the end result. Some of the stuff may have been done on Mac, others on Window(XP-Vista?), maybe on Linux--and how many different brands of computers or cards etc/ etc------a survey of "most used" would be pretty meaningless I think.

20th August 2007, 09:10	#12 (permalink)
Wася Misinterpreted signal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 310 My Photos: (3)	Neither do I. __________________ (Vista 64-bit, Intel E6700, 2GB, GeForce 8800GTS)

20th August 2007, 11:12	#13 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	We were working on Dell optiplex computers as main hardware, with 2 Gb of RAM, various graphic cards (x600 pro for a good part of the team, 20 inch screens), a G5Mac for the main part of the development, we had also two intel prototype computers which jhas been used for testing, a MacbookPro 15 inch (one of my computer) for mainly testing on PC and mac environments. We also had a Cintiq from Wacom (thanks again Wacom !) Pascal had a Dell laptop too, but more for administrative tasks. On my side, I was on dual screen (two 20" one 4/3 and the other 16/10) We had severcal video cards form ATI and nvidia and swap them time to time, depending on test. But Amapi was in the final stage for the public beta and we didn't have the time to switch to testing stage and we didn't take the time to tests AMapi on various hardware (I mean, as much hardware as possible). __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

20th August 2007, 14:16	#14 (permalink)
Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	Thats great, even more info than I thought to get. See I would have guessed that the reference PC video card would have been an ATI FireGL card. Knowing that is was a X600 pro lets me know that the card I am using is fairly good for these programs. I'm using a X1950 Pro AGP. So I if I decide to upgrade, I know a FireGL card should run lightning fast. That will be when I upgrade to PCI-E motherboard. Thanks again Thomas! __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci

20th August 2007, 15:46	#15 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	we had very bad feedback from our users about FireGL video cards (and not only with Amapi). One of our video card is a quadro (don't remember the model..) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

20th August 2007, 15:57	#16 (permalink)
Kryoclasm Critical Error! Retry? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 28 My Photos: (5) Images: 2	Really? That is very interesting. Good thing to know too. __________________ Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. : Leonardo da Vinci

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mayito7777 Hexagoner Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 747 My Photos: (1) Images: 13	This is the computer used in Cuba to help the development of Hexagon __________________ Seek and ye shall find. JESUS Hexagon 2\|Carrara 6 Pro\|Photoshop CS2\| Painter X http://richchurchtoday.blogspot.com/

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20th August 2007, 17:13	#18 (permalink)
mayito7777 Hexagoner Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 747 My Photos: (1) Images: 13	I think it is a KASTRO-59 __________________ Seek and ye shall find. JESUS Hexagon 2\|Carrara 6 Pro\|Photoshop CS2\| Painter X http://richchurchtoday.blogspot.com/

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Pixies NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 106 My Photos: (0)	Its a trs 80 by tandy