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Old 9th March 2007, 00:35   #1 (permalink)
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How big monitor 17, 19 ?And LCD or CRT ?

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I am buying New PC and can t decide if 17 or 19 inches big monitor and LCD or CRT?
I heard that CRT monitor is better for CG .
What are you using for monitor and LCD or CRT ?

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Old 9th March 2007, 00:49   #2 (permalink)
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I use a 19" LCD and love it, alot more desk space. My old 19" CRT was HUGE. I can't tell any noticable difference graphics wise. I got one with an 8ms response time but that is mainly for gaming.
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Old 9th March 2007, 13:56   #3 (permalink)
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I'm using a Panasonic HD (1280x720) projector and I'm a big freak.
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Old 9th March 2007, 14:22   #4 (permalink)
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You don't need the better refresh rate of a CRT for cg, the only thing they do is eat up desk space and produce lots of heat if they are stuffed in a enclosed computer desk.

I have a 19" lcd and it works great
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Old 9th March 2007, 15:08   #5 (permalink)
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I prefer a 17" LCD that a 19", because of the resolution which is the same and i don't like too big icons, but it's only a personal point of view. I own a 17 LCD as dual screen at home with a 21" LCD and at work, two 20" LCD
For the color calibration it's the same between a low entry LCD and CRT. If you want something good for your colors, by an Eizo LCD monitor
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Old 9th March 2007, 16:43   #6 (permalink)
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An Eizo monitor ... If you have money they are incredible !!! I want one !! or 2
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Old 9th March 2007, 17:59   #7 (permalink)
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I have a 20inch lcd monitor Viewsonic VP2030b and a 17inch lcd LG L1780Q so 1600x1200 and 1280x1024

Personnaly, I think that a resolution of 1600x1200 is better, I find 1280x1024 really too small.

I had a 22inch crt monitor before, a Iiyama HM204DT (well, I still have it but don't use it oO) and really, I (and my eyes) don't regret having lcd monitors now
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Old 9th March 2007, 23:05   #8 (permalink)
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I'm with Thomas about the 17" LCD. You pay more for a 19" but don't get any more pixels! Until recently I used 2 17" panels running at 1280x1024 but missed the extra pixels of my old 1600 x 1200 Iiyama CRT.

When buying an LCD for graphics use look for one with an S-IPS panel. These provide the best colours but are a little slower if you want to play games.

I have just replaced one of my 17" LCDs with a 21" and I'm loving having 1600 x 1200 screen space again
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Old 10th March 2007, 19:01   #9 (permalink)
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Guys, I read a bunch of articles saying that CRTs are better from LCD for CG work.
You dont agree?
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Old 10th March 2007, 19:19   #10 (permalink)
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If you work a lot of Hours non stop ... Take a LCD because your eyes .

If you want to have more space on your desk ... Take a LCD.

If you want to have more than 1 monitor in front of you ... Take a lcd, because your eyes and space on your desk .

If you search a matte screen to avoid mirror effect .. take a LCD but not a sony LCD.

I you want good colors space, buy Eizo LCD , or if you haven't the money search on magazine or website LCD benchmark . They analyse colors space, dead pixel, refresh rate ...

But, you can prefer CRT screen. Some people prefer how CRT are lighter than LCD.

But personnaly and professionaly, i prefer LCD, because i work more than 10H per Day 7 day per week , because every people now buy LCD and i want the same to know how looks my work on this sort of screen, Because TV are now LCD and my films are diffuse on them , because it's take less space on my desk and i need 4 monitors in front of me And also, because LCD are nice , flat and matte .
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Old 11th March 2007, 00:18   #11 (permalink)
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So why the heck they always say CRT?!
Seems that you gave all the votes to LCD.
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Old 11th March 2007, 10:25   #12 (permalink)
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... I can' give you the answer .
Ask to people wich prefer CRT why ?
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Old 11th March 2007, 11:33   #13 (permalink)
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Maybe because some years ago, it was not possible to calibrate the lcd ?

Plus, a very good Price/quality ratio
Plus no dead-pixel problem.
I think that now, we can turn the crt page.
So some people are still thinking that crt are the best.
(I was one of them not more than a year ago)
Anyway, the best tft are still expensive
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Old 11th March 2007, 11:41   #14 (permalink)
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So why the heck they always say CRT?!
Seems that you gave all the votes to LCD.
For a long time LCDs could not give the same colour quality as a CRT, at any price.

However, technology has moved on and top quality LCDs designed for colour work can hold their own against CRTs designed for the same task. On top of that they take up less desk space, are cooler and use less power. The downside is that an equivalent quality LCD will cost more than a CRT. The other problem is actually finding a good CRT for sale these days.

Having said that there are a lot of LCDs designed for games that are not suitable for graphics use. Like anything else you need to need to do a bit of research to see what you can get for your budget.

I like my LCDs and, although my new 21"" LCD is not quite as good as my old Iiyama CRT, I would not want to go back to the CRT simply because of the size and heat.
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Old 11th March 2007, 18:08   #15 (permalink)
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Guys what are your opinions on Samsungs LCDs?
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Guys what are your opinions on Samsungs LCDs?
Samsung have a good reputation. They use PVA technology rather than S-IPS.

I wanted to post this link before but only just found it again, anyway for a description of the different panel types and some recommendations try here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=1745344

I went for the HP LP2065 but I think HP have changed the panel type. Just as a note to anyone looking to buy an LCD. Manufacturers change the panel type without changing the model number. This means that you can think you're buying a particular type of panel and get something else.

I suggest making sure you can return the monitor if necessary.
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Old 12th March 2007, 13:49   #17 (permalink)
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Should we watch the monitors in the gaming pannel or...
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Should we watch the monitors in the gaming pannel or...
Panels made for gaming are focussed on speed rather than correct colour display.

For graphics work look for 'Accurate color/gamma curve' sections on the page I linked.

If you want to game as well then you'll need to find the fastest one with Accurate color/gamma curve as well.
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Old 12th March 2007, 14:17   #19 (permalink)
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Well, Im not into gamming at all, but Im doing a lot of CAD and rendering so, witch section to look?
Can you take a look at this models I have in my strore.
Wich model would you reccomend?
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Well, Im not into gamming at all, but Im doing a lot of CAD and rendering so, witch section to look?
Can you take a look at this models I have in my strore.
Wich model would you reccomend?
Well, unfortunately, I never looked at Samsung panels when I was researching my own purchase. So, I can't really tell you which one's are good for what you need. I would not want you to get a panel on my recommendation and then not be happy with it!

You'll need to look at the specifications and try to find reviews of the ones you are thinking of buying. As I said, for graphics, look for panels that have accurate colour/gamut.

Sorry can't be of more help.
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