Rhino 4 Mesh Modeling toolbar - Polyloop

jbshorty · 4th May 2007, 03:55

Hi all. I've been absent a bit around here because i have been focusing my attention on creating tools for mesh-modeling in Rhino 4. Why would i do that when i already have 4 poly-modeling programs? Tsplines is why. With all of my excitement, I've spent many hours during the last few days writing tools so i can poly model in Rhino, then convert to Tsplines with one mouse click, then perfect translation to Nurbs

. even i am quite shocked at the amazing things which can be done with the lowly macro (dumb-dumb of the programming world). Anyway, 2 of my toolbars are posted on the T-Splines Wiki page. One contains about 39 different mesh modeling tools. And one for creating wire cages that are used with the command tsSkin. This command is like network surfacing on crack soaked in caffeine first! You can input a complicated network of curves (think of a polygon control cage), and tsSkin can develop it into a smooth solid object... If you have Rhino 4, i would really encourage you to start working with the tsplines beta. My toolbars can be found here:

http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models

enjoy!
shorty

Frenchy Pilou · 4th May 2007, 11:59

Seems magic tools

jbshorty · 4th May 2007, 14:09

thanks!

Couerl · 5th May 2007, 04:13

Hey do they work in the demo? (It's all I have and all I can afford)

The nice thing about rhino demo is I can use it forever, I just can't save anything.

I'm still sctratching the surface, but it's pretty cool, I just miss the UM and simplicity of the French style workflow.

jbshorty · 5th May 2007, 08:10

Hi Couerl. Sorry but the Rhino demo has the "CopyToClipboard" and "Paste" functions disabled. And most of these macros use the copy/paste in there somewhere. Since you are interested to try them (and since my wife is busy watching movies in a foreign language which i can't understand) i made you a special version which is safe for the Rhino demo. I will send it to you by PM because i'd rather this toolbar doesn't get passed around as it's very crappy with all the edits/deletions i had to do to make it run

. On the real toolbar, the output is 100% clean and it erases the build history. On this one, there will be some remaining construction geometry (and a long list of steps in the undo stack). My suggestion is that you hide (CTRL+H) or lock CTRL+L) all objects in your file, except for the object you are editing. Or start on a new layer, and turn off or lock the other layers. This will make it easier for you to figure out what is the new geometry which you want to keep, and what is the crap you want to delete... One more thing - You have to install the CreaseSplitting plug-in from the link posted below. Installation instructions are simple. If you click on the .rhp file then Rhino will open a session and auto-install. Or you can drag-n-drop the .rhp file onto an open Rhino viewport. Once installed, call the CreaseSplitting command by typing the first few letters until you see it in the drop-down list. Set the option to "SplitCreases=NO". This will create single creased surfaces when creating surfaces from kinked (G0 polyline) curves. If you don't install and run this command first, then a bunch of the mesh "creation" macros will not work. Other stuff like control point transforms will still work...

Here is a link to the CreaseSplitting download and description:
http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.as...ngCommand.html

And this is how you can install the toolbars:

fom the menu : Tools > Toolbar Layout > File > Open
Or you can RMB the title bar of any flyout toolbar and then choose Toolbar Layout > File > Open

Let me know if you have any trouble installing...
shorty

If anybody else wants the toolbar for evaluation version, just let me know and I'll PM it to you...

Couerl · 5th May 2007, 08:15

You didn't have to go to all that trouble Shorty, but thanks, I appreciate it. I'm working on a bunch of stuff now and Rhino is around 3rd in line, but I'll get to it pretty soon.
Thanks!

Steven

jbshorty · 5th May 2007, 08:24

no big deal. It took more time to write the message than it did to edit and create the "demo" toolbar

... Hey i just noticed we can't stick attachments on a PM. What's up with that

?

Couerl · 5th May 2007, 08:32

Maybe because most of the PM'S are all: "I'm gonna get you one of these days". ;)
Seriously, I have no idea, may just be the template doesn't like it.

jbshorty · 5th May 2007, 08:49

or trying to stop us from porn-trafficking... damn those polyloop do-gooders

jbshorty · 7th May 2007, 05:28

Hi all. I just added another 20 new mesh tools to the "JB Mesh Tools" toolbar. Please read all about it on the TSplines For Rhino wiki...

http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models

shorty

jbshorty · 8th May 2007, 08:25

Added 4 new tools to the toolbar, and made a few improvements to previous ones. Read more info here:

http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models

shorty

jbshorty · 17th May 2007, 23:47

Hi all. I've just posted a MAJOR update to the toolbar. In total, about 60 new tools posted today. The biggest difference is a complete toolbar for mesh modeling on top of a Nurbs surface. So now it is easy to create a quick Nurbs form, and draw build patches on top of it using many curve and mesh creation tools. read more about it here...

http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models
shorty

jbshorty · 1st June 2007, 03:11

Hi all. I posted another update to the mesh toolbar today. A bunch of stability fixes and some new tools. The most interesting tool on this update is the 3D Mesh Pen with "on Surface" constraint...

http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models

shorty

Just curious - are any Rhino users at Polyloop even trying this stuff? I'd be interested to hear some feedback!

Nate Owens · 2nd June 2007, 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbshorty

...Just curious - are any Rhino users at Polyloop even trying this stuff? I'd be interested to hear some feedback!

I want to try it, but can't get to it for a while.
Have you posted this at Renderosity?
They have a pretty big and active Rhino community there.

jbshorty · 2nd June 2007, 17:04

Hi Nate. Have not posted at Renderosity, as i don't hang around there. Looks a bit too much like a dollhouse for my taste. Later i plan to rewrite all of these mesh tools with more advanced script, then i might start posting links at other websites. But for now, i prefer to keep it small and share with my closest buds. The only links are posted here, and on the Rhino Wiki page...

shorty

4th May 2007, 03:55	#1 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Rhino 4 Mesh Modeling toolbar Hi all. I've been absent a bit around here because i have been focusing my attention on creating tools for mesh-modeling in Rhino 4. Why would i do that when i already have 4 poly-modeling programs? Tsplines is why. With all of my excitement, I've spent many hours during the last few days writing tools so i can poly model in Rhino, then convert to Tsplines with one mouse click, then perfect translation to Nurbs . even i am quite shocked at the amazing things which can be done with the lowly macro (dumb-dumb of the programming world). Anyway, 2 of my toolbars are posted on the T-Splines Wiki page. One contains about 39 different mesh modeling tools. And one for creating wire cages that are used with the command tsSkin. This command is like network surfacing on crack soaked in caffeine first! You can input a complicated network of curves (think of a polygon control cage), and tsSkin can develop it into a smooth solid object... If you have Rhino 4, i would really encourage you to start working with the tsplines beta. My toolbars can be found here: http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models enjoy! shorty

4th May 2007, 11:59	#2 (permalink)
Frenchy Pilou What do you want me to create? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nébuleuse :) Posts: 5,569	Seems magic tools __________________ "Est beau ce qui plaît sans concept" Speedy Galerie

5th May 2007, 08:10	#5 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Hi Couerl. Sorry but the Rhino demo has the "CopyToClipboard" and "Paste" functions disabled. And most of these macros use the copy/paste in there somewhere. Since you are interested to try them (and since my wife is busy watching movies in a foreign language which i can't understand) i made you a special version which is safe for the Rhino demo. I will send it to you by PM because i'd rather this toolbar doesn't get passed around as it's very crappy with all the edits/deletions i had to do to make it run . On the real toolbar, the output is 100% clean and it erases the build history. On this one, there will be some remaining construction geometry (and a long list of steps in the undo stack). My suggestion is that you hide (CTRL+H) or lock CTRL+L) all objects in your file, except for the object you are editing. Or start on a new layer, and turn off or lock the other layers. This will make it easier for you to figure out what is the new geometry which you want to keep, and what is the crap you want to delete... One more thing - You have to install the CreaseSplitting plug-in from the link posted below. Installation instructions are simple. If you click on the .rhp file then Rhino will open a session and auto-install. Or you can drag-n-drop the .rhp file onto an open Rhino viewport. Once installed, call the CreaseSplitting command by typing the first few letters until you see it in the drop-down list. Set the option to "SplitCreases=NO". This will create single creased surfaces when creating surfaces from kinked (G0 polyline) curves. If you don't install and run this command first, then a bunch of the mesh "creation" macros will not work. Other stuff like control point transforms will still work... Here is a link to the CreaseSplitting download and description: http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.as...ngCommand.html And this is how you can install the toolbars: fom the menu : Tools > Toolbar Layout > File > Open Or you can RMB the title bar of any flyout toolbar and then choose Toolbar Layout > File > Open Let me know if you have any trouble installing... shorty If anybody else wants the toolbar for evaluation version, just let me know and I'll PM it to you...

7th May 2007, 05:28	#10 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Rhino 4 Mesh Modeling Toolbar Update May 6 '07 Hi all. I just added another 20 new mesh tools to the "JB Mesh Tools" toolbar. Please read all about it on the TSplines For Rhino wiki... http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models shorty

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4th May 2007, 14:09	#3 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	thanks!

5th May 2007, 04:13	#4 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,307	Hey do they work in the demo? (It's all I have and all I can afford) The nice thing about rhino demo is I can use it forever, I just can't save anything. I'm still sctratching the surface, but it's pretty cool, I just miss the UM and simplicity of the French style workflow.

5th May 2007, 08:15	#6 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,307	You didn't have to go to all that trouble Shorty, but thanks, I appreciate it. I'm working on a bunch of stuff now and Rhino is around 3rd in line, but I'll get to it pretty soon. Thanks! Steven

5th May 2007, 08:24	#7 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	no big deal. It took more time to write the message than it did to edit and create the "demo" toolbar ... Hey i just noticed we can't stick attachments on a PM. What's up with that ?

5th May 2007, 08:32	#8 (permalink)
Couerl Polygurbs Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,307	Maybe because most of the PM'S are all: "I'm gonna get you one of these days". ;) Seriously, I have no idea, may just be the template doesn't like it.

5th May 2007, 08:49	#9 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	or trying to stop us from porn-trafficking... damn those polyloop do-gooders

8th May 2007, 08:25	#11 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Added 4 new tools to the toolbar, and made a few improvements to previous ones. Read more info here: http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models shorty

17th May 2007, 23:47	#12 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Hi all. I've just posted a MAJOR update to the toolbar. In total, about 60 new tools posted today. The biggest difference is a complete toolbar for mesh modeling on top of a Nurbs surface. So now it is easy to create a quick Nurbs form, and draw build patches on top of it using many curve and mesh creation tools. read more about it here... http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models shorty

1st June 2007, 03:11	#13 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Hi all. I posted another update to the mesh toolbar today. A bunch of stability fixes and some new tools. The most interesting tool on this update is the 3D Mesh Pen with "on Surface" constraint... http://www.tsplines.com/wiki/tiki-in...als+and+Models shorty Just curious - are any Rhino users at Polyloop even trying this stuff? I'd be interested to hear some feedback!

2nd June 2007, 17:04	#15 (permalink)
jbshorty proud to be a nurb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: only in your mind Posts: 1,376	Hi Nate. Have not posted at Renderosity, as i don't hang around there. Looks a bit too much like a dollhouse for my taste. Later i plan to rewrite all of these mesh tools with more advanced script, then i might start posting links at other websites. But for now, i prefer to keep it small and share with my closest buds. The only links are posted here, and on the Rhino Wiki page... shorty