Fur with surface replicator - Polyloop

mon_stdnt · 13th January 2006, 16:17

Is their a way to make fur ,lets say for a teddy bear, with the surface replicator? or do I have to exported into Poser and give it hair?

I know how to do long hair in Hexagon, it was in a tutorial or a forum, but that was long hair and it was a color and alpha map.

JuST · 13th January 2006, 16:32

This would propably be possible I guess. Why don't you just try? Make an "hair-object" and put it via surface replicator onto the teddy. I don't know whether it will take a lot of time and ram to render... ?
It would be very nice if you show us your results.

danilo.massa · 13th January 2006, 16:48

I think that you will get the best results with the Anything Grows plugin by Digital Carvers Guild:
http://digitalcarversguild.com/plugin.php?ProductId=5

I love it ...

Pete Exxtreme · 13th January 2006, 19:28

The fur on this teddy bear was made with Anything Grows for example. ( ..and i don't pretend that this is a perfect usage of AG BTW

)

medeamajic · 13th January 2006, 21:34

I don't think Anything Grows is as good as the Poser Dynamic Hair or what 3DS MAX uses. I hope Carrara implements a hair and fur system for Carrara 6.0. A cloth program would not hurt.

mon_stdnt · 13th January 2006, 21:44

This is what I got with surface relicator

LoneGunman · 13th January 2006, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by mon_stdnt

This is what I got with surface relicator

Definetly not convincing, did you tried to make 2-4 poly objects (no thickness) for your strands and multiple surface replicators for the same object?

You cannot (from my expirience so far) get fuzzy things like tennis ball (that would need 20 milion strands), but grass (and carpet) on the terrain is most certanly doable if carefully planned...

Here is my little experiment with 3 different strands and 3 different surface replicators on the same object all maxed out (30000 objects)...

JuST · 13th January 2006, 22:55

Looks quite good, but I guess that this amount of objects would not be enough for a whole teddy.

are · 14th January 2006, 13:27

Try using a small flat plane with a texture on it (alpha map of hair strands) ?

are · 14th January 2006, 14:55

here is a quick test...
So it needs a lot of work and I think I will stick with anything grows

are · 14th January 2006, 15:15

another try - still needs lots of playing with

JuST · 14th January 2006, 17:12

Yes me too. But one can see that it is somehow possible!

LoneGunman · 19th February 2006, 19:40

I tried using 1 milion strands on a single object...

Here is the result (still not convincing enough), obviously less processor demanding fur plugin is really needed, badly

Cheers

andywright · 19th February 2006, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneGunman

I tried using 1 milion strands on a single object...

Here is the result (still not convincing enough), obviously less processor demanding fur plugin is really needed, badly

Cheers

I think the popular demand for such a plugin is demonstrated by the number of hits this thread has had in 1 month !

Other option is if Digital Carvers Guild could further develop anything grows

but wouldn't solve cloth.

LoneGunman · 19th February 2006, 20:13

Fur plugins in general suck if they are polygon based, the best ones out there are solved as rendering effect, good spline definition based long hair is needed as well

WillBellJr · 21st February 2006, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by medeamajic

I don't think Anything Grows is as good as the Poser Dynamic Hair or what 3DS MAX uses. I hope Carrara implements a hair and fur system for Carrara 6.0. A cloth program would not hurt.

That with plants waving in the breeze and we'd be SET!

-Will

medeamajic · 21st February 2006, 22:43

Carrara has improved the landscaping, and terrain features for version 5. I can only imagine they may add even more in version 6. Things like water editors for water falls a oceans would be nice. Carrara offers a lot for the price and I think things will get even better in version 6 and 7.

WillBellJr · 21st February 2006, 23:02

Wow, I didn't think about the water editor - yeah, that too!

Seriously though, just a coupla more "inches" with the environmental features and Carrara would be at the front of the class for sure!

-Will

medeamajic · 22nd February 2006, 11:49

Carrara has a water editor that can do ripples and small rolling waves but it can not do waves that crash on the beach or white caps.

bwtr · 22nd February 2006, 13:18

Have you seen the Carrara movies by Astro Films with all the waves with foaming crests?

13th January 2006, 16:17	#1 (permalink)
mon_stdnt Always learning Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 446	Fur with surface replicator Is their a way to make fur ,lets say for a teddy bear, with the surface replicator? or do I have to exported into Poser and give it hair? I know how to do long hair in Hexagon, it was in a tutorial or a forum, but that was long hair and it was a color and alpha map.

13th January 2006, 16:48	#3 (permalink)
danilo.massa Securityman ! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Turin Posts: 142	I think that you will get the best results with the Anything Grows plugin by Digital Carvers Guild: http://digitalcarversguild.com/plugin.php?ProductId=5 I love it ... __________________ 2 x P4 2.8 Ghz, ATI9700, 1Gb of Ram, Win XP SP2 1 x Core Duo 1.66 Ghz, ATI X1400, 2Gb of Ram, Win XP SP2

13th January 2006, 19:28	#4 (permalink)
Pete Exxtreme Lick it up Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thonon/France Posts: 4,631	The fur on this teddy bear was made with Anything Grows for example. ( ..and i don't pretend that this is a perfect usage of AG BTW ) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Toute faute de frappe ou erreur de syntaxe sont dues a un clavier rebelle à toute forme d'autorité. LightWave 9 \| Hexagon 2 My gallery

13th January 2006, 21:44	#6 (permalink)
mon_stdnt Always learning Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 446	This is what I got with surface relicator Attached Thumbnails

14th January 2006, 14:55	#10 (permalink)
are AKA RamPackWobble Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anglesey, North Wales, UK Posts: 216	here is a quick test... So it needs a lot of work and I think I will stick with anything grows Attached Thumbnails

13th January 2006, 16:32	#2 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 500	This would propably be possible I guess. Why don't you just try? Make an "hair-object" and put it via surface replicator onto the teddy. I don't know whether it will take a lot of time and ram to render... ? It would be very nice if you show us your results.

13th January 2006, 21:34	#5 (permalink)
medeamajic Now, I learn animation Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,028	I don't think Anything Grows is as good as the Poser Dynamic Hair or what 3DS MAX uses. I hope Carrara implements a hair and fur system for Carrara 6.0. A cloth program would not hurt.

13th January 2006, 22:55	#8 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 500	Looks quite good, but I guess that this amount of objects would not be enough for a whole teddy.

14th January 2006, 13:27	#9 (permalink)
are AKA RamPackWobble Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anglesey, North Wales, UK Posts: 216	Try using a small flat plane with a texture on it (alpha map of hair strands) ?

14th January 2006, 17:12	#12 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 500	Yes me too. But one can see that it is somehow possible!

19th February 2006, 19:40	#13 (permalink)
LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556	Just to ley you know guys I tried using 1 milion strands on a single object... Here is the result (still not convincing enough), obviously less processor demanding fur plugin is really needed, badly Cheers Attached Thumbnails __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

19th February 2006, 20:13	#15 (permalink)
LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556	Yep Fur plugins in general suck if they are polygon based, the best ones out there are solved as rendering effect, good spline definition based long hair is needed as well __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

21st February 2006, 22:43	#17 (permalink)
medeamajic Now, I learn animation Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,028	Carrara has improved the landscaping, and terrain features for version 5. I can only imagine they may add even more in version 6. Things like water editors for water falls a oceans would be nice. Carrara offers a lot for the price and I think things will get even better in version 6 and 7.

21st February 2006, 23:02	#18 (permalink)
WillBellJr Box modeling Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 207	Wow, I didn't think about the water editor - yeah, that too! Seriously though, just a coupla more "inches" with the environmental features and Carrara would be at the front of the class for sure! -Will

22nd February 2006, 11:49	#19 (permalink)
medeamajic Now, I learn animation Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,028	Carrara has a water editor that can do ripples and small rolling waves but it can not do waves that crash on the beach or white caps.

22nd February 2006, 13:18	#20 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,094	Have you seen the Carrara movies by Astro Films with all the waves with foaming crests?

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