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Old 9th September 2007, 19:51   #1 (permalink)
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Blink C6 buggy as it could me - just here?

I'm quite surprised about the lack of bug findings on Polyloop. I'm quite upset with C6 so far. I've to say I'm on a Mac (G5 2x2GHz).
- Rotating bones is slow as before (figure with many polygons).
- Shader room crashes when working on a multiple shading domains
Poser figure.
- Hair setup won't show hairs until I exit it and reenter.
- Hair shaders crash as well when used in complex scens.
- Resizing the preview window in the shader room crashes carrara.
Worst of course is the shading room problem.
Is it just me or have some other mac users experienced such problems?
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Old 9th September 2007, 19:59   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, I've been noticeing quite a few bugs aswell(I have a Mac Pro), I think the best thing to do is submit you bug reports here

http://forum.daz3d.com/bugs/login_pa...Fmain_page.php

Hopefully daz gets them fixed.
Daz plans on releasing an update the end off september.
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Old 9th September 2007, 20:01   #3 (permalink)
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It ain't only you bro,
I've worked on my buddy's machine and he's running an Intel box (P4).
We've experienced lock-ups and crashes.

I'm also trying to understand the new bones system.
I trying to created a simple skeleton but when I click to add a bone and it is positioned in a place I don't want it be.

Any help?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 9th September 2007, 22:27   #4 (permalink)
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It's terrible. I like to make landscapes withe Carrara and I can't even put a tree into a landscape, fog wipes out hairy gras I read. Network rendering give my movies red spots where the render node does its work and when I read a while on the DAZ forum there's lot more. If the fix doesn't repair it all I want my money back (30 days, 22 to go) I am stil working in C5 because I don't want my scenes to be messed up.

Ad most of all, I don't want to talk about it because it makes me angry, but if you mention it ....
Destrying such a beautiful program is a crime.
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Old 9th September 2007, 22:42   #5 (permalink)
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Nice language, impressive that you can be so vulgar in something other than your native tongue. Nuf said
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Old 9th September 2007, 22:52   #6 (permalink)
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Carrara 6 is not ruined. Carrara 6 is not a wreck. Carrara 6 is not dieing. Carrara 6 will be just fine.

People need to realize that DAZ does indeed care about thier software C6 it is the DAZ foothold to create a Poser killer. Carrara is GREAT for the DAZ future. The same development team is there with Carrara and things will be corrected. The DAZ culture needs to change for software development a bit but that is going to happen with Carrara over time. DAZ is releasing a service pack for C6 at the end of September. Let's see what that will address before we hang this new Carrara developer. Things will workout just fine IMHO. DAZ does have the fund$.

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Old 10th September 2007, 03:01   #7 (permalink)
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I've owned hexagon for sixteen months and I still can't use the paint tools because of bugs, which is the reason I bought it in the first place.

I only wasted thirty bucks, so it's not too bad. I feel sorry for you Carrara 6 guys though. Good luck, and lets hope Daz fixes Hex too one day.
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Old 10th September 2007, 03:39   #8 (permalink)
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...I feel sorry for you Carrara 6 guys though.
Please don't feel sorry. Carrara 6 is a great application. Same developers that were with Eovia so try to see that the sky has not fallen! Carrara 6 is just newly released software that's all. Bugs seem to always appear at a 3D software version releases. Then a quick fix this seems to be more normal than not in this industry.

Carrara 6 is not perfect but it is very refined software and this version is a worthy upgrade worts and all. Carrara 6 is just fine and it is only going to keep getting better. Carrara 6 is extremely important to DAZ as it is their 'real' shot at creating a Poser killer all the while improving the already great feature set in the application.

Carrara 6 is as great as Carrara ever was. There isn't anything to worry about regarding Carrara 6. If I didn't like it I would get my money back, wouldn't upgrade, and find a 3D application that is better for what I do. Many, many options out there. But I do like Carrara 6 and see a lot of value in this upgrade.

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Old 10th September 2007, 03:44   #9 (permalink)
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I'm assuming that most of the bugs come from Mac's?
any critical pc bugs.
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Old 10th September 2007, 04:03   #10 (permalink)
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There are bugs for both the PC and Mac. Not that strange so early. Wait and see if the patch at the end of September addresses your issues.

Many, many, software packages have updates shortly after release. Why would Carrara 6 be any different? The positive is that this development team has never let me down. As far as I am concerned the software is made by the same people only difference is the logo on their shirt is now DAZ instead of Eovia.

Why worry? If you feel these developers have let you down then do what you need to do. I KNOW they are still the same great Carrara team.
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Old 10th September 2007, 04:13   #11 (permalink)
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Carrara 6 is extremely important to DAZ as it is their 'real' shot at creating a Poser killer all the while improving the already great feature set in the application.
I don't think that Daz is trying to create a Poser killer, as anyone would see that this is pointless. Daz studio is more likely to injure Poser in the long-term imo, but I doubt this will happen either.

Poser has hundreds of thousands of users who have spent years making and buying content for it, some of it from Daz itself. I don't see Daz making a dent in this market. This is why I was surprised to see Victoria (made in modo apparently) dominating the hype.

I think the integration was more likely a way to encourage Carrara users to buy more Daz content and silence the many whiners who complained of dodgy Poser support. This is not a bad move imo, but hardly Poser killer territory.

If I was Daz I would have persisted with improving Carrara's reputation as an accessible Max alternative. They've abandoned this in favour of "doll house" marketing, and I still believe this was a bad move.

I may be wrong, but I think my arguments would resonate with others, and keep in mind I don't use Poser or Carrara, so there's no inherent bias in my views either.

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Old 10th September 2007, 05:03   #12 (permalink)
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If I was Daz I would have persisted with improving Carrara's reputation as an accessible Max alternative. They've abandoned this in favour of "doll house" marketing, and I still believe this was a bad move.

I may be wrong, but I think my arguments would resonate with others, and keep in mind I don't use Poser or Carrara, so there's no inherent bias in my views either.

Never heard of Carrara even trying to be a viable alternative for Max in all the years I have used it, who was fostering that reputation? They don't compete in the same markets as far as I can see.

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Old 10th September 2007, 05:52   #13 (permalink)
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It's not working too badly for me. Small bugs, not crashing much more than C5 for Intel (which was much more stable than C5 non-intel)
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Old 10th September 2007, 06:07   #14 (permalink)
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Transient. Hexagon aint broke! You have an inadequate computer. Upgrade to a better (3D) grade set up and it will be excellent.

Carrara has for years been the best, by far, all round 3D app for the money. C6, at Daz prices, makes Carrara an even greater 3D bargain.
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Old 10th September 2007, 06:42   #15 (permalink)
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The painting tools still make seams which can't be fixed adequetely by hand (as if you would want to put yourself through this anyway) unless the mesh is extremely simple.

I would love to know how you avoid this problem. So far every time I try to export a painted mesh it's fubar. I've never had the crashing problems others have had, but I bought the program to fill a painting niche and it still doesn't work.

I'm not going to comment on the Carrara hype as flame wars always break out.

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Never heard of Carrara even trying to be a viable alternative for Max in all the years I have used it, who was fostering that reputation?
I never said it was a viable alternative, I said accessible i.e easy to use and learn, and cheap, as this review claims. Max is wonderful in many ways, but you really need to love complexity to use it properly in my experience. I don't miss it.
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Old 10th September 2007, 07:12   #16 (permalink)
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A cheap, all round, 3D app that is easier to learn that Carrara? That is a better viable alternative to whatever?

Where? Where?
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Old 10th September 2007, 11:35   #17 (permalink)
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That should have been "buggy as it could BE" of course ;)
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Old 10th September 2007, 11:44   #18 (permalink)
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Ok : C6 is buggy, as every package in version 0. Today that a reality in most software companies to provide low quality software.

So gentleman, may i kindly suggest to concentrate more in posting/commenting ARTWORK in this forum, instead of doing a pissing contest ?
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Old 10th September 2007, 12:51   #19 (permalink)
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I don't think that was warranted. It was probably the bitchiest post yet.
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Old 10th September 2007, 18:56   #20 (permalink)
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Peace,

Some will like C6 and some never will. Some see absolutely no value in DAZ and some do. We all have differing paths and many options on what to use. All is as it should be.

Everyone can get what they are after.

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