Nierd! - Polyloop

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 16:17

This is a wip I'm currently posting on the french side of the forum, but I know that most of english readers don't take a look at the french part

I started, a long time ago, a kind of Evil woman face, and I always wanted to do the "Male" of the same style. But here, I won't stop at the head.

About the head, it's almost done, now, I have to clean the topology a little bit (too much stars&knot edges), and continue adding some details. About morphology details, I'll finish the extra one in Zbrush.

Comments and critics are always welcome !

Modeled in Hexagon 1.2 and the test renders in Carrara 5

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 16:17

I progress a little bit tonight. I didn't change at all the topology problems, that I know and you show me, I prefer finish most of the body, adding all the details, and then, cleaning it!
But you (all) are true on these modelling problems (the most important problem for me is the loop missing between the nose and mouth..)

And this model won't be animate, I only do some pose.

The model will have 4 arms (that what I start today), two legs and a tail (in fact, two tails...). I have to work a lot the connection of the two arms, actually, I don't like it...

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 16:18

The arms are nearly ended. I'll add some extra details laters and most of the final one, with Zbrush. I also have some extra work to clean the topology.

Next part, the end of the torso!

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 16:19

I continue a little bit on the back. Still a lot of work on this part....
I also found a problem while pasting my pictures in Photoshop, shown by the red arrow on the last capture. I'll correct it!

JuST · 27th January 2006, 16:37

I've already seen this guy in the French section (just cannot answer in French, because my French is too bad) and I think he is really cool! The muscles are outstanding! And the idea to create 4 arms is great!

*g*

I just wonder, why he, in contrast to the female version, is looking so gruffy?

JuST

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 16:58

Huh, what "gruffy" means ?

JuST · 27th January 2006, 17:19

Well sorry I do not know how to describe...He does not really look angry, but not friendly or happy either... He looks as if he got up on the wrong side of the bed and as if he therefore treats anybody a bit harshly ^^. Do you know what I mean (bourru is a word I remember in French, but I do not know whether this describes the thing I want to say correctly)?
(I did not mean that he is modeled angular or something.)

Thomas · 27th January 2006, 17:40

Oh, ok, I understand what it means now

(Bourru is the good word, congratulation about your vocabulary!)

I didn't work on the facila expression at all, and he will have some accessories, that's why he looks like this ;)
But if you take a look at the "female", she have the same kind of expression

Thomas · 29th January 2006, 22:39

Update of the day

I have a proprotion problem with the wrists, I'll correct them on the next update

David Robson · 31st January 2006, 08:19

Thats some nice work Thomas. A realy good concept, looking forward to seeing the end result.

BTW how are you achieving the textured wire frames?

Thomas · 31st January 2006, 10:09

I use Wireframe Pro from DCG. It's a very good plugin, which I'll use soon in animation.
It is also include in the last plugin pack, ShaderStyle, available at Eovia.com

REMO · 31st January 2006, 20:26

wow, he's awesome Thomas!
I bet I could write a song for the landscape he would live in! (hehe, maybe?)
Looking forward to seeing him finished

zirolin · 2nd February 2006, 13:22

Thomas,GOOOOOOOD MODELING!!

It must be difficult to model the character who has 4arms,as you mentioned.
But there is no strange part in your character and your flow of polygon is great.
I will use your captures as reference for my learning 3DCG.
I'll expect for completion of this model

Thomas · 2nd February 2006, 14:12

Zirolin: thanks for your comments! I'll post the videos modeling soon ! (check your private messages on this forum)

zirolin · 2nd February 2006, 17:00

Thomas,thank you for your kindness

MRK-X2 · 2nd February 2006, 21:41

Wow, great work, Thomas... I can´t believe.... Yes... very nice...

Thomas · 2nd February 2006, 23:37

Update of the day. Damn I hate these legs... I think I'll rebuild some parts when I'll have a little more time. I'm partially based on human anatomy.. (huh, where ?

By the way, this guy is not human

I change the body proprtion, the head was too small, and tweak a little bit the hands.
Next part, the two tails and the feets!
Critics are always welcome

Corndog · 3rd February 2006, 00:56

Dam...
Awesome work Thomas

David Robson · 3rd February 2006, 12:12

Hi Thomas

Your critter is coming along very nicely indeed. You certainly have a good grasp of your subject. However I feel that the flow of the pectorals into the bicep/deltoid area needs a little work, there is too much of a sharp crease there where there should not be any, also the quadriceps are way too sharp.

Just the observations of an illustrator. I am loking forward to seeing him finished.

What does this guy do for a living...juggle? And whats that a tail, no, two tails!!!

Regards
David

Thomas · 3rd February 2006, 14:49

David: your critics are welcome, that's why I post me work ;) I prefer a lot critics like that than nothing

It help progress !

27th January 2006, 16:17	#1 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Nierd! This is a wip I'm currently posting on the french side of the forum, but I know that most of english readers don't take a look at the french part I started, a long time ago, a kind of Evil woman face, and I always wanted to do the "Male" of the same style. But here, I won't stop at the head. About the head, it's almost done, now, I have to clean the topology a little bit (too much stars&knot edges), and continue adding some details. About morphology details, I'll finish the extra one in Zbrush. Comments and critics are always welcome ! Modeled in Hexagon 1.2 and the test renders in Carrara 5 Attached Images __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:04.

27th January 2006, 16:17	#2 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	I progress a little bit tonight. I didn't change at all the topology problems, that I know and you show me, I prefer finish most of the body, adding all the details, and then, cleaning it! But you (all) are true on these modelling problems (the most important problem for me is the loop missing between the nose and mouth..) And this model won't be animate, I only do some pose. The model will have 4 arms (that what I start today), two legs and a tail (in fact, two tails...). I have to work a lot the connection of the two arms, actually, I don't like it... __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:05.

27th January 2006, 16:18	#3 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	The arms are nearly ended. I'll add some extra details laters and most of the final one, with Zbrush. I also have some extra work to clean the topology. Next part, the end of the torso! __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:06.

27th January 2006, 16:19	#4 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	I continue a little bit on the back. Still a lot of work on this part.... I also found a problem while pasting my pictures in Photoshop, shown by the red arrow on the last capture. I'll correct it! __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:07.

27th January 2006, 16:58	#6 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Huh, what "gruffy" means ? __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

27th January 2006, 16:37	#5 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 500 My Photos: (1) Images: 5	I've already seen this guy in the French section (just cannot answer in French, because my French is too bad) and I think he is really cool! The muscles are outstanding! And the idea to create 4 arms is great! g I just wonder, why he, in contrast to the female version, is looking so gruffy? JuST

27th January 2006, 17:19	#7 (permalink)
JuST Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 500 My Photos: (1) Images: 5	Well sorry I do not know how to describe...He does not really look angry, but not friendly or happy either... He looks as if he got up on the wrong side of the bed and as if he therefore treats anybody a bit harshly ^^. Do you know what I mean (bourru is a word I remember in French, but I do not know whether this describes the thing I want to say correctly)? (I did not mean that he is modeled angular or something.)

27th January 2006, 17:40	#8 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Oh, ok, I understand what it means now (Bourru is the good word, congratulation about your vocabulary!) I didn't work on the facila expression at all, and he will have some accessories, that's why he looks like this ;) But if you take a look at the "female", she have the same kind of expression __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

29th January 2006, 22:39	#9 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Update of the day I have a proprotion problem with the wrists, I'll correct them on the next update __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:07.

31st January 2006, 08:19	#10 (permalink)
David Robson Vertex Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 17 My Photos: (0) Images: 1	Thats some nice work Thomas. A realy good concept, looking forward to seeing the end result. BTW how are you achieving the textured wire frames?

31st January 2006, 10:09	#11 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	I use Wireframe Pro from DCG. It's a very good plugin, which I'll use soon in animation. It is also include in the last plugin pack, ShaderStyle, available at Eovia.com __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

31st January 2006, 20:26	#12 (permalink)
REMO Vertex Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 10 My Photos: (0)	wow, he's awesome Thomas! I bet I could write a song for the landscape he would live in! (hehe, maybe?) Looking forward to seeing him finished

2nd February 2006, 13:22	#13 (permalink)
zirolin Spline Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 35 My Photos: (0)	Thomas,GOOOOOOOD MODELING!! It must be difficult to model the character who has 4arms,as you mentioned. But there is no strange part in your character and your flow of polygon is great. I will use your captures as reference for my learning 3DCG. I'll expect for completion of this model

2nd February 2006, 14:12	#14 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Zirolin: thanks for your comments! I'll post the videos modeling soon ! (check your private messages on this forum) __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]

2nd February 2006, 17:00	#15 (permalink)
zirolin Spline Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 35 My Photos: (0)	Thomas,thank you for your kindness

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2nd February 2006, 21:41	#16 (permalink)
MRK-X2 NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Germany, NRW Posts: 103 My Photos: (0) Images: 6	Wow, great work, Thomas... I can´t believe.... Yes... very nice... __________________ Used Software: Carrara Studio 5 Pro Hexagon Video Studio 9 Photoshop 6 X2-Creation - for Digital Design

2nd February 2006, 23:37	#17 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	Update of the day. Damn I hate these legs... I think I'll rebuild some parts when I'll have a little more time. I'm partially based on human anatomy.. (huh, where ? By the way, this guy is not human I change the body proprtion, the head was too small, and tweak a little bit the hands. Next part, the two tails and the feets! Critics are always welcome __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR] Last edited by Thomas : 18th February 2007 at 13:08.

3rd February 2006, 00:56	#18 (permalink)
Corndog Edge modeling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 384 My Photos: (0)	Dam... Awesome work Thomas __________________ daz3d forums blow chunks

3rd February 2006, 12:12	#19 (permalink)
David Robson Vertex Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 17 My Photos: (0) Images: 1	Hi Thomas Your critter is coming along very nicely indeed. You certainly have a good grasp of your subject. However I feel that the flow of the pectorals into the bicep/deltoid area needs a little work, there is too much of a sharp crease there where there should not be any, also the quadriceps are way too sharp. Just the observations of an illustrator. I am loking forward to seeing him finished. What does this guy do for a living...juggle? And whats that a tail, no, two tails!!! Regards David

3rd February 2006, 14:49	#20 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 10,941 My Photos: (198) Images: 93	David: your critics are welcome, that's why I post me work ;) I prefer a lot critics like that than nothing It help progress ! __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop.net [EN/FR] - Meuuh.net [FR +16 ans] - Totyo.com [FR] - Pixologic.eu [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls.com [FR]