LightWave 9.5 (beta): Interior - Polyloop

LoneGunman · 5th April 2008, 13:32

Hello guys

I did not post here in some time, busy learning LW, here is my first render, little scene I made to test rendering engine...

Main building modeled in LW modeler, other stuff in Silo 1.4 (more comfortable there ATM), rendered with Final Gathering in about 1 hour and 35 min on dual core 2.2 Ghz system.

Cheers

Grendel · 5th April 2008, 14:10

Looking good LG, how are you liking Lightwave? Should the shadows have a crisper edge towards the base of the doors? It looks like around a 5:00 pm time?

-ash- · 5th April 2008, 15:19

Nice render - nice to see you back posting here on polyloop

Tartiflette · 5th April 2008, 17:29

Hi there, nice render you have there !

However your render time seems a bit long to me, what settings did you use for this scene ?
I could help you get the best out of it to cut down the render time to something more "LW 9.5 style" !

Cheers,
Laurent aka Tartiflette

P.S. : Don't post screenshot of your settings as you're not allowed to do that outside of the OpenBeta forum...

LoneGunman · 5th April 2008, 21:16

Grendel, it looked more to me like a morning time, weird, since sun is on the left side...

Tartiflette, thanks, I did indeed have much shorter render times on previous iterations, but I had some artifacts (splotches) on the windows I wanted to get rid off and I added lots of blur on all reflections just to see how is that gonna influence render times. Original render time was actually 40 minutes.

Tartiflette · 6th April 2008, 04:10

OK, i understand better now !

Anyway it's a great render you have there.

Cheers,
Laurent aka Tartiflette

Aunty Betty · 10th April 2008, 16:52

Looking sweet fella. Lightwave is perfect for you and for that quality of render I'd say that is a pretty good render time myself. It's a couple of coffees , 1 trip to the lavatory a short walk and a light spot of lunch later unlike Vue where One could easily grow a mustache and beard before the render completed.

Pixelplucker · 23rd April 2008, 01:15

I've been looking at LW, it does look pretty but the render times scare me. Too bad Electric Image doesn't offer any descent exporting. That scene would probably take 10-20 min tops.
Old days using 2.8 I rendered out over 4mil polys on a 9600 mac with 512 ram in 15 min at 10,000x8,000 pixels in under 15min. I've been reluctant to make the upgrade since I'm now pc and previous versions of EI on the pc were clunky and didn't have the smoothness the mac version had.

Tartiflette · 23rd April 2008, 01:55

Well, you're comparing Apples and Oranges here...

EIAS is for sure one hell of a fast render engine (and i know what i'm talking about here...) but for phong/scanline rendering only, not for GI renders.

When you're doing GI renders with EIAS, speed is decent, even good, but doesn't come close to what it is with latest beta of LightWave.

We're talking of a render engine that is able to compete with Vray or modo in term of ratio speed/quality on GI renders.

Cheers,
Laurent aka Tartiflette

Tartiflette · 23rd April 2008, 16:57

Speaking of Electric Image they are offering the upgrade to v7.0 at a competitive price if you already own a 3D application (or even Photoshop...)

ElectricImage Website

Cheers,
Laurent aka Tartiflette

rickei · 23rd April 2008, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tartiflette

Speaking of Electric Image they are offering the upgrade to v7.0 at a competitive price if you already own a 3D application

And we'll be getting "Modeler" back!!!! it should be ready next month!
I think they are calling it "Tesla" now

5th April 2008, 13:32	#1 (permalink)
LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556 My Photos: (0) Images: 23	LightWave 9.5 (beta): Interior Hello guys I did not post here in some time, busy learning LW, here is my first render, little scene I made to test rendering engine... Main building modeled in LW modeler, other stuff in Silo 1.4 (more comfortable there ATM), rendered with Final Gathering in about 1 hour and 35 min on dual core 2.2 Ghz system. Cheers Attached Thumbnails __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

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-ash- Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the road, round the corner, out of the noise. (Scotland) Posts: 655 My Photos: (13) Images: 9	Nice render - nice to see you back posting here on polyloop __________________ Regards Tony

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LoneGunman SILO abuser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 556 My Photos: (0) Images: 23	Thanks guys Grendel, it looked more to me like a morning time, weird, since sun is on the left side... Tartiflette, thanks, I did indeed have much shorter render times on previous iterations, but I had some artifacts (splotches) on the windows I wanted to get rid off and I added lots of blur on all reflections just to see how is that gonna influence render times. Original render time was actually 40 minutes. __________________ My missions are not impossible, I just make them look that way

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Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 558 My Photos: (0) Images: 7	Looking sweet fella. Lightwave is perfect for you and for that quality of render I'd say that is a pretty good render time myself. It's a couple of coffees , 1 trip to the lavatory a short walk and a light spot of lunch later unlike Vue where One could easily grow a mustache and beard before the render completed. __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

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5th April 2008, 14:10	#2 (permalink)
Grendel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,171 My Photos: (25) Images: 23	Looking good LG, how are you liking Lightwave? Should the shadows have a crisper edge towards the base of the doors? It looks like around a 5:00 pm time?

5th April 2008, 17:29	#4 (permalink)
Tartiflette Bob dans Monsters, Inc Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lussan, Gard Posts: 1,678 My Photos: (20)	Hi there, nice render you have there ! However your render time seems a bit long to me, what settings did you use for this scene ? I could help you get the best out of it to cut down the render time to something more "LW 9.5 style" ! Cheers, Laurent aka Tartiflette P.S. : Don't post screenshot of your settings as you're not allowed to do that outside of the OpenBeta forum...

6th April 2008, 04:10	#6 (permalink)
Tartiflette Bob dans Monsters, Inc Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lussan, Gard Posts: 1,678 My Photos: (20)	OK, i understand better now ! Anyway it's a great render you have there. Cheers, Laurent aka Tartiflette

23rd April 2008, 01:15	#8 (permalink)
Pixelplucker Boolean Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91 My Photos: (0)	I've been looking at LW, it does look pretty but the render times scare me. Too bad Electric Image doesn't offer any descent exporting. That scene would probably take 10-20 min tops. Old days using 2.8 I rendered out over 4mil polys on a 9600 mac with 512 ram in 15 min at 10,000x8,000 pixels in under 15min. I've been reluctant to make the upgrade since I'm now pc and previous versions of EI on the pc were clunky and didn't have the smoothness the mac version had.

23rd April 2008, 01:55	#9 (permalink)
Tartiflette Bob dans Monsters, Inc Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lussan, Gard Posts: 1,678 My Photos: (20)	Well, you're comparing Apples and Oranges here... EIAS is for sure one hell of a fast render engine (and i know what i'm talking about here...) but for phong/scanline rendering only, not for GI renders. When you're doing GI renders with EIAS, speed is decent, even good, but doesn't come close to what it is with latest beta of LightWave. We're talking of a render engine that is able to compete with Vray or modo in term of ratio speed/quality on GI renders. Cheers, Laurent aka Tartiflette

23rd April 2008, 16:57	#10 (permalink)
Tartiflette Bob dans Monsters, Inc Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lussan, Gard Posts: 1,678 My Photos: (20)	Speaking of Electric Image they are offering the upgrade to v7.0 at a competitive price if you already own a 3D application (or even Photoshop...) ElectricImage Website Cheers, Laurent aka Tartiflette