Fire Flower - Polyloop

Rowan · 2nd August 2007, 11:52

This one has me stumped. More as a topic of interest, how on earth did the boring, semi realistic flames of Carrara turn into this?? Total render time: 5 hours (and that was low quality). Soon as this computer finishes this fractal (ie Saturday morning) I want to put this one in the pipeline. I reckon it would make a nice desktop. I've changed a few things, the sphere has been properly cut so that it doesn't show up the model flaws... that was kinda annoying. Also thinking about changing the glow colour, and maybe adding some colour to the glass. I was thinking about adding flecks of fire into the glass, but couldn't think up a decent way to do it. A 2 layer shader would do the job, but I have no idea what type of mixer to use.

Snake 972 · 3rd August 2007, 06:14

Very nice your fire flower.

I like it.

Good job

bwtr · 3rd August 2007, 08:33

I don't know what the image size is, AND I don't want to downgrade your effort, but I can not see anything in this that would warrant more than a 20 minute render time?

If you would care to download your file maybe some suggestions could be made. I think you may be setting unnecessary rendering settings.

tonytrout · 3rd August 2007, 09:04

yeah Not want to teach you how to suck eggs but, I think you got to do a lot more tweaking with your shader/s before you turn the render settings up to production quality, otherwise you will be waiting forever and not adjusting to get what you want. Turn everything down as much as possible and render small size until you are Ok with the shader effects. Many a boring night spent rendering long passes only to find a flaw has taught me that

Rowan · 4th August 2007, 11:45

Any help would be appreciated! I've included the file here, and yes, I am a newbie to Carrara... Time isn't really a problem right now, it's sunny and hot, so I'm outdoors all the time :D

As a side note, I love the way the forum uploads, THEN checks the extension...

bwtr · 4th August 2007, 15:26

The first thing I did was to set the render settings back to default. See the Print screen.

The darker image has the infinite plain,Fire,Anything Glows off as well. The render time is 3 and a half minutes! That shows where all the render time is taking place.

The final image has the Carrara default render settings, Anything glows to all EXCEPT Cut 1 and Smoothing5. The render time, on my machine, is nearly 2 hours.

Hope you find of value and interest.

Brian

Varsel · 4th August 2007, 19:38

I started with a new document to set the rendersettings to default.
And then imported FireLilly.car in.

It did still take to long to render.
Then I checked the objects and shaders.

One of the things I have learned to do as a habitt is to Remove unused masters. Carrara seems to be a bit sentimental, and likes to keeps all its memories in .. its memory.

That did it . Render time to 2.24.

Hope this will help you.

2nd August 2007, 11:52	#1 (permalink)
Rowan Extrusion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Sussex Posts: 190	Fire Flower This one has me stumped. More as a topic of interest, how on earth did the boring, semi realistic flames of Carrara turn into this?? Total render time: 5 hours (and that was low quality). Soon as this computer finishes this fractal (ie Saturday morning) I want to put this one in the pipeline. I reckon it would make a nice desktop. I've changed a few things, the sphere has been properly cut so that it doesn't show up the model flaws... that was kinda annoying. Also thinking about changing the glow colour, and maybe adding some colour to the glass. I was thinking about adding flecks of fire into the glass, but couldn't think up a decent way to do it. A 2 layer shader would do the job, but I have no idea what type of mixer to use. Attached Thumbnails __________________ The new kid :-)

3rd August 2007, 06:14	#2 (permalink)
Snake 972 manga-ka Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Martinique Posts: 566	Very nice your fire flower. I like it. Good job __________________ anime studio pro v5.5; poser 7; amapi pro 7.52; carrara 5.01; Bryce 5.5

4th August 2007, 15:26	#6 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,130	The first thing I did was to set the render settings back to default. See the Print screen. The darker image has the infinite plain,Fire,Anything Glows off as well. The render time is 3 and a half minutes! That shows where all the render time is taking place. The final image has the Carrara default render settings, Anything glows to all EXCEPT Cut 1 and Smoothing5. The render time, on my machine, is nearly 2 hours. Hope you find of value and interest. Brian Attached Thumbnails

4th August 2007, 19:38	#7 (permalink)
Varsel Cube Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bergen Posts: 83	I started with a new document to set the rendersettings to default. And then imported FireLilly.car in. It did still take to long to render. Then I checked the objects and shaders. One of the things I have learned to do as a habitt is to Remove unused masters. Carrara seems to be a bit sentimental, and likes to keeps all its memories in .. its memory. That did it . Render time to 2.24. Hope this will help you. Attached Thumbnails

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3rd August 2007, 08:33	#3 (permalink)
bwtr Brian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,130	I don't know what the image size is, AND I don't want to downgrade your effort, but I can not see anything in this that would warrant more than a 20 minute render time? If you would care to download your file maybe some suggestions could be made. I think you may be setting unnecessary rendering settings.

3rd August 2007, 09:04	#4 (permalink)
tonytrout Pixar want to hire me! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aotearoa Land of the long white cloud. Posts: 581	yeah Not want to teach you how to suck eggs but, I think you got to do a lot more tweaking with your shader/s before you turn the render settings up to production quality, otherwise you will be waiting forever and not adjusting to get what you want. Turn everything down as much as possible and render small size until you are Ok with the shader effects. Many a boring night spent rendering long passes only to find a flaw has taught me that