The sharp end - Polyloop

Aunty Betty · 10th May 2007, 17:04

Look away Behzad this may upset you.

Another ZBrush quicky.

rickei · 10th May 2007, 17:20

oh my

Waiter...I think there's a hare in my burger.

funny

Etienne Colas · 10th May 2007, 17:20

Excellent.

crazy wabbit · 10th May 2007, 17:24

You really weally hate me? Why.......Whyyyyyyyy

Oh my God, please lord help us all.................

OHHHHH MYYYYY GOd
where is justice.

Rowan · 10th May 2007, 17:32

10 out of 10 just for the idea :D

crazy wabbit · 10th May 2007, 21:59

HoW can You

Nate Owens · 10th May 2007, 23:32

Ooops... aunty is taking another walk on the wild side
(didit, da-didit, didit... didit... as the song goes)

wun, wabbit, wun!!

crazy wabbit · 11th May 2007, 02:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Owens

Ooops... aunty is taking another walk on the wild side
(didit, da-didit, didit... didit... as the song goes)

wun, wabbit, wun!!

Nate have some passion for me.

Nate Owens · 11th May 2007, 03:40

Some think rabbit is a delicacy...
(not sure about crazy ones... )

mmmmmmmmm... wabbit burgers....

crazy wabbit · 11th May 2007, 04:34

Aunty, sorry for going crazy over this thread.

Nate you know why I am dressed like a chief? Because I cook anything that wants to harm me.

Aunty Betty · 11th May 2007, 13:32

Behzad - it's ok I'm more than happy to let you work out your personal issues

crazy wabbit · 12th May 2007, 15:25

Okay now, I have got over it.

LUKO · 14th May 2007, 21:48

I have seen this work on the Zbrush forum ... and it is said there, that you have only used Zbrush and Carrara to make this image ... I was sure that you had used Photoshop or an other 2d soft to make so precise and fine textures and details ... Did you use Zbrush 3 for this image ... Is there new fonctions that allow such precise shading ... It would be interestig to see a tutorial showing the technique used to obtain such an excellent finishing ...

Excellent work! Sorry for my english.

Aunty Betty · 15th May 2007, 16:35

Hi Luko the finish is all down to baking the lighting and materials on the objects in their seperate layers. Lighting can then be further enhanced by using some of the fx brushes on the layers and items.

The material used is a very simple metalic with mid specularity and some bump and different elements use a variation on this as well as using varying diffuse qualities to create faux lighting fx.

Parts of the mesh's were from hexegon re-modelled in ZBrush but all the render work, scene construction and finish uses ZBrush right down to the shadows which were painted using stencils.

Remember also as well as texturing mesh's using projection master you can also futher texture the object once it is snapshot onto the canvas layer as pixols as well as adding bumps and displacement and material changes should you wish. In this way you enhance your final render within Zbrush just as you do in any painting package but in 2.5D not 2D.
Sometimes it's far quicker just to paint the pixols once they're placed on to the canvas - rather than using projection master. After all your only then seeing the part of the mesh facing you through the clipping plane.

Once you have the experience it is an incredibly fast method of working!!

I've recently gone back to ZBrush because I adore this method of working but it's not great for scenes that require complex perspective for this I would tend to use Carrara and occassionaly Lightwave if I need certain results.

The piece from start to finish took three hours to complete working in ZBrush V2.

micaelito · 15th May 2007, 23:55

LLLOooolll, funtastic Aunty !, as usual

LUKO · 16th May 2007, 04:56

Thank you very much Aunty ! I am not sure to understand all what you have written here. I have to admit that it make less than three weeks that i use Zbrush. Anyway, first i'll have to translate and understand your text ... Then see if i can do what all this refer to. I keep all this text as an excellent reference ...

Dann-O · 18th May 2007, 04:49

I enjoy seeign what you do in Z-Brush there seems to be more possiblilities than I previously thought with the program. Are you getting version 3?

Odessey · 26th May 2007, 07:18

Being a chef by trade for 27 years i can strongly relate to this subject matter , such as this , my occupation puts you thru the meat grinder.And there is always one of your staff that would like to put a knife in your back. And when you run out of filet mignon switch to rabbit and call it a rustic dish, like it was all premeditated!

love your style man !
Regards , Michael.

10th May 2007, 17:04	#1 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	The sharp end Look away Behzad this may upset you. Another ZBrush quicky. Attached Thumbnails __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

10th May 2007, 17:32	#5 (permalink)
Rowan Extrusion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Sussex Posts: 190	10 out of 10 just for the idea :D __________________ The new kid :-)

10th May 2007, 23:32	#7 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,058	Ooops... aunty is taking another walk on the wild side (didit, da-didit, didit... didit... as the song goes) wun, wabbit, wun!! __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog

11th May 2007, 03:40	#9 (permalink)
Nate Owens Doodlin' Dude Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,058	Some think rabbit is a delicacy... (not sure about crazy ones... ) mmmmmmmmm... wabbit burgers.... __________________ Shirts, MousePads, Stuff / The Gallery / Videos / Blog Last edited by Nate Owens; 11th May 2007 at 05:54.

11th May 2007, 13:32	#11 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	Behzad - it's ok I'm more than happy to let you work out your personal issues __________________ aka Boozy Floozie

10th May 2007, 17:20	#2 (permalink)
rickei Respect the Dawg! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA - Conway, South Carolina Posts: 793	oh my Waiter...I think there's a hare in my burger. funny

10th May 2007, 17:20	#3 (permalink)
Etienne Colas A la ligne Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,538	Excellent.

10th May 2007, 17:24	#4 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	You really weally hate me? Why.......Whyyyyyyyy Oh my God, please lord help us all................. OHHHHH MYYYYY GOd where is justice.

10th May 2007, 21:59	#6 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	HoW can You

11th May 2007, 04:34	#10 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Aunty, sorry for going crazy over this thread. Nate you know why I am dressed like a chief? Because I cook anything that wants to harm me.

12th May 2007, 15:25	#12 (permalink)
crazy wabbit Now, I learn animation Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,381	Okay now, I have got over it.

14th May 2007, 21:48	#13 (permalink)
LUKO Débutant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada. Posts: 1,962	I have seen this work on the Zbrush forum ... and it is said there, that you have only used Zbrush and Carrara to make this image ... I was sure that you had used Photoshop or an other 2d soft to make so precise and fine textures and details ... Did you use Zbrush 3 for this image ... Is there new fonctions that allow such precise shading ... It would be interestig to see a tutorial showing the technique used to obtain such an excellent finishing ... Excellent work! Sorry for my english. __________________ Dans cet univers provisoire, nos axiomes n'ont qu'une valeur de faits divers : Cioran. MacOS X Version 10.4.11. Processeur 2 x 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5. 1.5Go DDR2 SDRAM. Carrara 6 Pro, Amapi Pro 7.52, Hexagon 2.2, Cheetah 4.6, Blender 2.48a. http://blog.iquebec.com/luko-3d

15th May 2007, 16:35	#14 (permalink)
Aunty Betty In the blooming heather Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Little Happening Posts: 569	Hi Luko the finish is all down to baking the lighting and materials on the objects in their seperate layers. Lighting can then be further enhanced by using some of the fx brushes on the layers and items. The material used is a very simple metalic with mid specularity and some bump and different elements use a variation on this as well as using varying diffuse qualities to create faux lighting fx. Parts of the mesh's were from hexegon re-modelled in ZBrush but all the render work, scene construction and finish uses ZBrush right down to the shadows which were painted using stencils. Remember also as well as texturing mesh's using projection master you can also futher texture the object once it is snapshot onto the canvas layer as pixols as well as adding bumps and displacement and material changes should you wish. In this way you enhance your final render within Zbrush just as you do in any painting package but in 2.5D not 2D. Sometimes it's far quicker just to paint the pixols once they're placed on to the canvas - rather than using projection master. After all your only then seeing the part of the mesh facing you through the clipping plane. Once you have the experience it is an incredibly fast method of working!! I've recently gone back to ZBrush because I adore this method of working but it's not great for scenes that require complex perspective for this I would tend to use Carrara and occassionaly Lightwave if I need certain results. The piece from start to finish took three hours to complete working in ZBrush V2. __________________ aka Boozy Floozie Last edited by Aunty Betty; 15th May 2007 at 16:54.

15th May 2007, 23:55	#15 (permalink)
micaelito Expert en couscous Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rigné (79) Posts: 949	LLLOooolll, funtastic Aunty !, as usual __________________ " Qui promène son chien est au bout de la laisse." Prof. André Sanfrapper - 1817

16th May 2007, 04:56	#16 (permalink)
LUKO Débutant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada. Posts: 1,962	Thank you very much Aunty ! I am not sure to understand all what you have written here. I have to admit that it make less than three weeks that i use Zbrush. Anyway, first i'll have to translate and understand your text ... Then see if i can do what all this refer to. I keep all this text as an excellent reference ... __________________ Dans cet univers provisoire, nos axiomes n'ont qu'une valeur de faits divers : Cioran. MacOS X Version 10.4.11. Processeur 2 x 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5. 1.5Go DDR2 SDRAM. Carrara 6 Pro, Amapi Pro 7.52, Hexagon 2.2, Cheetah 4.6, Blender 2.48a. http://blog.iquebec.com/luko-3d

18th May 2007, 04:49	#17 (permalink)
Dann-O AKA Monkey King Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Erie Pennsylvania Posts: 173	I enjoy seeign what you do in Z-Brush there seems to be more possiblilities than I previously thought with the program. Are you getting version 3?

26th May 2007, 07:18	#18 (permalink)
Odessey Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 163	Being a chef by trade for 27 years i can strongly relate to this subject matter , such as this , my occupation puts you thru the meat grinder.And there is always one of your staff that would like to put a knife in your back. And when you run out of filet mignon switch to rabbit and call it a rustic dish, like it was all premeditated! love your style man ! Regards , Michael. __________________ Carrara 5 Pro , Hexagon , Cinema 4-D 9.5 , Photo Shop 7 , Corel Draw 12 , Terragen , Painter 9 , Geo Control , Modo 301 .

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