Dream Car - Polyloop

phlicker · 4th December 2006, 20:05

It's my dream car that I'm still dreaming up. I am working on my drawing skills.

Knight-Templar · 4th December 2006, 20:49

Not bad Phlicker, maybe fill out the side panels just a little bit, be good to see what it looks like with wheels.
good work
Simon

phlicker · 4th December 2006, 23:26

Here it is with some simple tires and lights. I think I will learn a lot from this project.

Knight-Templar · 5th December 2006, 12:59

Reminding me of the car from ZZtop, trying is the only way of learning my friend.

Si

phlicker · 5th December 2006, 15:06

Yaaa, ZZtop, one of my favs. I'll have to design a girl in a swimsuit to go with the car. My "Dream Car" reminds me of some thing between a ZZtop car and the Plymouth Prowler.
Here is a question about model building, when any body out there is making one do you wait to add "Thickness" at the end of the project or earlier? The reason I ask is that I was working on mine after adding thickness and I noticed that if I selected say a face on the out side of the object and moved it inward it crossed the face of the inside of the object. It kind of works if you're making a head and you want to use the inside face as the eye balls.

Knight-Templar · 5th December 2006, 15:21

I dont usually add thickness, i tend to use box modelling. But i did follow a Tut for completing a rapier sword and i used thickness on the hilt after it was modelled.

I will try and find the link for you.

Simon

phlicker · 5th December 2006, 18:51

Thanks. Any good box modelling tuts that you know of that you could direct me to would be appreciated.

jbshorty · 5th December 2006, 20:48

Hi Phlicker.

Here is a link to a thread which posed a very similar question. Someone needed to add polygons along the edges to give the surface an "apparent" thickness. The same techniques can be applied to the edges of your car.

http://forums.polyloop.net/hexagon-e...ams-shirt.html

shorty

phlicker · 5th December 2006, 23:21

Thanks for the link shorty. I am playing around with deleting faces on both sides then bridging them together say for the side windows. Here is a sample (it may be hard to see). I just tried the edges on the back and bottom of the "window" opening to see what it would do and I noticed some thing I might want to use in the design. It left a gap in the top and front of the window, just like the groove in a car. So maybe I can leave them unbridged and flair the top and front outside edge of the body for style.
The bottom and back where I did bridge came to a sharp point so I might have to round it, maybe I'll leave it for style. If I want a rounded edge I might have to bridge the whole window opening then work on the top and front.

phlicker · 5th December 2006, 23:25

Here is a shot of the window.

jbshorty · 6th December 2006, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by phlicker

...I just tried the edges on the back and bottom of the "window" opening to see what it would do and I noticed some thing I might want to use in the design...

"Happy Accidents" as Bob Ross used to call them...

phlicker · 10th December 2006, 01:14

I've been playing with a different version of the "Dream Car". I think this one looks like an alligator's head. I started messing around with the Edge tool in the Vertex modeling to see what I could do. I spent a few days trying to box model a car and now am back to my drawn versions.

phlicker · 10th December 2006, 01:51

Here is the front view with out thickness and then thickness.

phlicker · 14th December 2006, 01:40

Another version of the "Dream Car". I box modeled this one instead of drawing it with lines. I started with a cube, resized it, selected the whole thing and added a few tesselations (what the heck, they're free) to devide the box into a lot of squares then started shaping. This tutorial may be of intrest for ideas, http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/tut3D/tut3d.htm . I think I'll start a campaign to bring back the tail fin.

phlicker · 14th December 2006, 15:46

Here is an idea I had for shaping the wheel wells. I figured I could use the Boolean operation to make them and then shape the inside of them by pulling down the edges/faces. It also gives me an idea of what wheels will look like. This is a box model too.

phlicker · 14th December 2006, 23:32

Ok, now that I had some time to work on my boolean idea this is what I came up with. I want flare the and such later. I am really getting to like box modeling a car. I have a basic method that I am refining. I really like Heagon 2. It is the easiest and most versatile program I've ever used. I have learned more in the last month with it than all the rest of the other programs I've tried. Amapi 2 or 3 was my first and I liked it a lot.
The last image is an attempt to draw the body and the bottom of the car seperately.

Thomas · 19th December 2006, 11:21

Never do a boolean operation like that, because it will result of triangles, which will make you a hard work to continue your modeling.
The best is to cut around the wheel with th Tesselate tool, and do an extrusion, not this kind of boolean operation

phlicker · 20th December 2006, 01:14

Thanks for the tip. I kind of figured out after I did the boolean operation that there were a lot harder to work with than I thought.

4th December 2006, 20:05	#1 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Dream Car It's my dream car that I'm still dreaming up. I am working on my drawing skills. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

4th December 2006, 23:26	#3 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Here it is with some simple tires and lights. I think I will learn a lot from this project. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

5th December 2006, 15:06	#5 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Yaaa, ZZtop, one of my favs. I'll have to design a girl in a swimsuit to go with the car. My "Dream Car" reminds me of some thing between a ZZtop car and the Plymouth Prowler. Here is a question about model building, when any body out there is making one do you wait to add "Thickness" at the end of the project or earlier? The reason I ask is that I was working on mine after adding thickness and I noticed that if I selected say a face on the out side of the object and moved it inward it crossed the face of the inside of the object. It kind of works if you're making a head and you want to use the inside face as the eye balls. __________________ phlicker Last edited by phlicker; 26th December 2006 at 02:50.

5th December 2006, 18:51	#7 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Thanks. Any good box modelling tuts that you know of that you could direct me to would be appreciated. __________________ phlicker

5th December 2006, 23:21	#9 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Thanks for the link shorty. I am playing around with deleting faces on both sides then bridging them together say for the side windows. Here is a sample (it may be hard to see). I just tried the edges on the back and bottom of the "window" opening to see what it would do and I noticed some thing I might want to use in the design. It left a gap in the top and front of the window, just like the groove in a car. So maybe I can leave them unbridged and flair the top and front outside edge of the body for style. The bottom and back where I did bridge came to a sharp point so I might have to round it, maybe I'll leave it for style. If I want a rounded edge I might have to bridge the whole window opening then work on the top and front. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

4th December 2006, 20:49	#2 (permalink)
Knight-Templar Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 162	Not bad Phlicker, maybe fill out the side panels just a little bit, be good to see what it looks like with wheels. good work Simon

5th December 2006, 12:59	#4 (permalink)
Knight-Templar Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 162	Reminding me of the car from ZZtop, trying is the only way of learning my friend. Si

5th December 2006, 15:21	#6 (permalink)
Knight-Templar Extrusion Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 162	I dont usually add thickness, i tend to use box modelling. But i did follow a Tut for completing a rapier sword and i used thickness on the hilt after it was modelled. I will try and find the link for you. Simon

5th December 2006, 20:48	#8 (permalink)
jbshorty subhuman infection Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: in a dirty sock Posts: 1,412	Hi Phlicker. Here is a link to a thread which posed a very similar question. Someone needed to add polygons along the edges to give the surface an "apparent" thickness. The same techniques can be applied to the edges of your car. http://forums.polyloop.net/hexagon-e...ams-shirt.html shorty

5th December 2006, 23:25	#10 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Here is a shot of the window. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

10th December 2006, 01:14	#12 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	I've been playing with a different version of the "Dream Car". I think this one looks like an alligator's head. I started messing around with the Edge tool in the Vertex modeling to see what I could do. I spent a few days trying to box model a car and now am back to my drawn versions. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

10th December 2006, 01:51	#13 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Here is the front view with out thickness and then thickness. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

14th December 2006, 01:40	#14 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Another version of the "Dream Car". I box modeled this one instead of drawing it with lines. I started with a cube, resized it, selected the whole thing and added a few tesselations (what the heck, they're free) to devide the box into a lot of squares then started shaping. This tutorial may be of intrest for ideas, http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/tut3D/tut3d.htm . I think I'll start a campaign to bring back the tail fin. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

14th December 2006, 15:46	#15 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Here is an idea I had for shaping the wheel wells. I figured I could use the Boolean operation to make them and then shape the inside of them by pulling down the edges/faces. It also gives me an idea of what wheels will look like. This is a box model too. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

14th December 2006, 23:32	#16 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Ok, now that I had some time to work on my boolean idea this is what I came up with. I want flare the and such later. I am really getting to like box modeling a car. I have a basic method that I am refining. I really like Heagon 2. It is the easiest and most versatile program I've ever used. I have learned more in the last month with it than all the rest of the other programs I've tried. Amapi 2 or 3 was my first and I liked it a lot. The last image is an attempt to draw the body and the bottom of the car seperately. Attached Thumbnails __________________ phlicker

19th December 2006, 11:21	#17 (permalink)
Thomas Always learning new stuff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Merignac, France Posts: 11,383	Never do a boolean operation like that, because it will result of triangles, which will make you a hard work to continue your modeling. The best is to cut around the wheel with th Tesselate tool, and do an extrusion, not this kind of boolean operation __________________ Polyloop owner & Administrator - no support by PM or email. Polyloop [EN/FR] - Meuuh [FR +16 ans] - Lecaramel.fr [FR - Hélico RC] - Totyo [FR] - Pixologic [JOB] - Le ZBlog [JOB] - La3dpourlesnuls [FR]

20th December 2006, 01:14	#18 (permalink)
phlicker Vertex Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, Mich. USA Posts: 27	Thanks for the tip. I kind of figured out after I did the boolean operation that there were a lot harder to work with than I thought. __________________ phlicker

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