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thanks for the knowledge brian. . . by MoI you mean moment of inspiration?
i was playing around with the demo of that,i do like its ease of use just not sure how much it costs! i stay far away from warez or what ever they are calling it these days.....and i have since posting this thread done some further research and playing around with hexagon,i havent delved too deep into my carrara yet,i have carrara6pro,just figured I'd hang around hexagon and further my modeling skills with out the clutter of graph editors,timelines and other unnecessary tools. but now im confused when you say C5pro is the most complete does that mean something is wrong with C6pro(stability,tools,ease of use,difficulty)???
i definitely feel what your saying and appreciate the help. most of my decision to buy hex and carrara was based on using MAX for a while,i became sufficient in it fast without tuts and manuals,when i played with hex it just felt right.
well,hopefully now that i know these will be efficient for now,i hope to return with a model!
cheers!