[Nichod]

Originally Posted by McHannemann

Hi Nichod,

I must say that LoneGunmann is right in one point, the devtime of Vic4 is a bit long let's say... I do work in the bizz and seeing how our Modellers smash out chars for the intro movies, ingame ect. let me guess that the guys at DAZ really were either extreeemly slow or just dropping hundreds versions of the model before getting close to say happy and even texturing a 4kx4k texture doesn't take 2 years... seen stuff like that done in a week. So i must sadly admit that LoneGunmann hits there a point, as well as the upgrade policy with Daz.

I've also done work in the "bizz" and most models are not nearly as complex as V4. I have seen very few with anywhere near the amount of Morph targets Vicky has. Show me a game model with 240 facial morph targets. Plus, do any of you have a clue when they actually started V4? I don't. I agree on the textures, that doesn't take long, but the thousands of morphs might take some time, along with the planning stage of deciding what would be the ideal morph areas, etc. I'm not saying they aren't slow, personally I think with some things they are. But we have no clue how long they were working on Vicky.

Bryce is the best example, I thought after getting Hex 2 that the bugs where due to an unfinished product and that daz will go for fixing properly and so on, which is not the case with some of the most important features like texture painting I just say seems...

I completely agree on this. But as I've said and has been said they are building a development team for Hex. This takes time. I love Hexagon, but it disappoints me as well.

and then Bryce 6 came, the thing is unstable, constantly crashing and even the readme states directly that most of the features are not working...

I can't say anything on Bryce. I don't really use it.

Sadly we got again a Pre-Beta/Beta stage product from daz
or with Carrara what do they first?
run for the universal binary for the mac, I checked the bug tracker for carrara and we had more request for fixes than ever a request forthe universal binary at all... kind of weird for me

I didn't like that myself. Since the MAC users only consist of about 15% of the Carrara market. As least at Eovia time. Not sure now. But I do understand why they did it, its a matter of staying compatible with the times. I'm sure we'll see something similar in another year or two in regards to vista. I find Carrara very stable. Missing features that I'd like to see, but stable.

And one last thing is that I pretty much also do not like to check for a update of the software and have to look at 1 million poser figure products, the stuff is ok for beginners who cannot model and want to try out 3D but carrara was intended to become more pro so I would like a seperate website for the products like Carrara, Bryce and Hexagon to give them at least a better base.

I agree. Lets put this to a close. I welcome discussions like this as its always a good idea to rant and just get it out. But lets go back to being productive.

Carrara 5 was released last year. And they follow a 1-2 year development cycle and as far as I know they are on track with this for Carrara 6.