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Reactor · 25th August 2006, 12:20

Not a problem, Nichod. I'll do my best to keep things both interesting and civil.

Medeamajic, I know what your point is. And, it's a fair one to make. If someone is going to comment on something, they should have a decent level of understanding of it. The main problem is, how much should they have? It's silly to say they should have enough to develop either a portfolio or perform some artistic feat with the software which pleases you.

I know guys who are really new to certain applications, but they've been in the 3D game so long, I sit up and take notice when they comment on an application. Do you ignore Thomas when he starts playing around with a new app like Modo? No, you listen, because he's a knowledgable guy. Does he need a killer portfolio? No- it's obvious to me when someone is talking sense. If a guy has been involved behind the scenes with compositing work for years, but has no portfolio to show other than the work he did with a large team, do you ignore him when he comments on applications? Do you tell him he's an idiot if he can't make killer CG composite that pleases you? No, you'd be dumb if you did that. You listen, because chances are you'll learn something.

I'm not going to run out and produce some waste of time art, simply to appease you. I'm sorry, but I don't think someone's ability to produce something decent looking in an application makes them some kind of authority on that thing. I can whip up a pretty darn good render in Carrara, but I've only been using Carrara for a little while now. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about it as some of the guys on here are. Still, I've spent a lot of time learning about rendering, so when push comes to shove, I can get a fairly good result from any application on the market, even if I haven't used it before.

The 3D market is filled with a lot of guys making comments about software and techniques which they're quite clueless about. The response to that isn't to be an arrogant git and challenge every one of them. The response is to accept that at some time in the past, many of us were exactly the same, and so you correct them, and teach them.

I hope you can see what I'm saying.

25th August 2006, 12:20	#43 (permalink)
Reactor NURBS Booleans are your friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 117	Not a problem, Nichod. I'll do my best to keep things both interesting and civil. Medeamajic, I know what your point is. And, it's a fair one to make. If someone is going to comment on something, they should have a decent level of understanding of it. The main problem is, how much should they have? It's silly to say they should have enough to develop either a portfolio or perform some artistic feat with the software which pleases you. I know guys who are really new to certain applications, but they've been in the 3D game so long, I sit up and take notice when they comment on an application. Do you ignore Thomas when he starts playing around with a new app like Modo? No, you listen, because he's a knowledgable guy. Does he need a killer portfolio? No- it's obvious to me when someone is talking sense. If a guy has been involved behind the scenes with compositing work for years, but has no portfolio to show other than the work he did with a large team, do you ignore him when he comments on applications? Do you tell him he's an idiot if he can't make killer CG composite that pleases you? No, you'd be dumb if you did that. You listen, because chances are you'll learn something. I'm not going to run out and produce some waste of time art, simply to appease you. I'm sorry, but I don't think someone's ability to produce something decent looking in an application makes them some kind of authority on that thing. I can whip up a pretty darn good render in Carrara, but I've only been using Carrara for a little while now. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about it as some of the guys on here are. Still, I've spent a lot of time learning about rendering, so when push comes to shove, I can get a fairly good result from any application on the market, even if I haven't used it before. The 3D market is filled with a lot of guys making comments about software and techniques which they're quite clueless about. The response to that isn't to be an arrogant git and challenge every one of them. The response is to accept that at some time in the past, many of us were exactly the same, and so you correct them, and teach them. I hope you can see what I'm saying.